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re: Retirement "Inequality"

Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:39 am to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21858 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:39 am to
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The entire ad dealt with black peoples savings and retirement



Stop being disingenuous. You erected the "take money from white people to give to black people" straw man and beat it down several times. The suspicion about their intentions regarding 401s isn't out-of-the-blue paranoia; they've floated the trial balloon several times since Hillary first spoke of it.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31996 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:40 am to
So you disagree that they may be advocating for privatizing SS?


I just don’t see why an investment firm would advocate for taxing 401ks
This post was edited on 4/7/23 at 10:41 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21858 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:43 am to
quote:

So you disagree that they may be advocating for privatizing SS?


They MAY be advocating for anything. When people start talking about "equity" and "legislation" I don't believe it's unreasonable to be suspicious of their intentions.

quote:

I just don’t see why an investment firm would advocate for taxing 401ks

Because no private firms are currently investing effort and money into woke and "social justice"?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31996 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:48 am to
quote:

So you disagree that they may be advocating for privatizing SS? They MAY be advocating for anything. When people start talking about "equity" and "legislation" I don't believe it's unreasonable to be suspicious of their intentions. quote:I just don’t see why an investment firm would advocate for taxing 401ks Because no private firms are currently investing effort and money into woke and "social justice"?



So an ad says nothing about taxing 401ks, taxing 401ks would be negative for their business, you have no link to where they advocated for such, you admit that it could be about anything, I present a more business friendly proposal that is more likely for them to advocate for but yet I have to be wrong with no evidence to the contrary.


sounds about right.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21858 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:01 am to
quote:

but yet I have to be wrong


There you go with the straw man again. Can you discuss anything without that particular fallacy?
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
7855 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:02 am to
quote:

Did yall know that half of black Americans dont have enough savings to retire?


quote:

Retire from what?


Truth
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3708 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:24 am to
“At my job,a lot of the black people don’t participate in 401-k”

When I was working ICU,maybe 1/2 the nurses( mostly white)participated and we made pretty good money. They wouldn’t even do the minimum to get the match.
My manager had a Masters degree and told me she couldn’t afford to even do the minimum.
Then when the market crashed 2008-2009,quite a few people in the hospital cashed in,paid the extra taxes and paid the 10% penalty.

Financial literacy is very much lacking for both blacks and whites.
This post was edited on 4/7/23 at 11:26 am
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38952 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Ahhhh that's not what it said.


Read between the lines. It's the next logical step.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29056 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:40 am to
Perhaps instead of buying rims, nails, tats, and evidently, dance lessons….some of us put that money into a 401k.

The government already steals way too much of my money.
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
6621 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 11:49 am to
quote:

RACIST


Race wasn’t mentioned. Only environment and upbringing.
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
7855 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

When I was working ICU,maybe 1/2 the nurses( mostly white)participated and we made pretty good money. They wouldn’t even do the minimum to get the match.


I believe that. My brother worked for Shell for 5 years before I convinced him to start contributing. Here now some 15 years later he thanks me often. Lol

quote:

Financial literacy is very much lacking for both blacks and whites.


Agreed 100%
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96348 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 4:02 pm to
Hard to have enough savings if you don’t, you know, SAVE anything.

If you are living in debt your entire life, you aren’t saving for retirement.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61344 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 4:06 pm to
No comments allowed on the video.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21742 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

It more than likely means addressing it beforehand so they will have some retirement.


Yeah! They're going to tax the hell out of you so it never makes it into your 401k!

Yall getting scared over nothing!
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90824 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

Did yall know that half of black Americans dont have enough savings to retire?


Do less than half of white people have enough? Considering something like 70% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck I bet half of whites don’t either
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21742 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

For the downvoters please tell which of these you disagree with.


The fact that those bitching about inequalities don't push for any of those things right now.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41182 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 4:13 pm to
Have we discussed the absurdity of having an interpretive dance routine in an attempt to address the financial illiteracy of certain people? Although, the young lady with the blonde afro was nice to look at.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12017 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

If almost every dime you make is used for surviving then it's hard to save.



Another BS statement.
Millions of Poverty stricken folks have been drawing a government check since the 1960's.
Do you honestly believe they couldn't have saved some of that money, invested in Mutual funds. They can buy designer clothes, Nike shoes, body piercings and tattoos.
Charles Payne, Business reporter on Fox News, told about his youth. Single parent family, mother held two jobs and still they made less than the Welfare family next door. Charles is now a multimillionaire, sends his Kids to college in Europe. Betcha the Welfare family's Kids are still on Welfare.
You have to have a "Want".
I have dozens of Nieces and Nephews living in North Louisiana in poverty. No industry, so they always Vote "Democrat". Democrats care for the little man.
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
3512 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

Why should I be responsible for my actions and now responsible for their as well?


The absolute correct response.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14108 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 4:46 pm to
When Person A invests in a Roth IRA with a diversified portfolio and Person B invests in a Scat Pack Challenger, there's going to be some inequality on the back end.
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