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re: Rand Paul Uninvited to White House Picnic

Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:25 pm to
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11354 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:25 pm to
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We need to cut spending. We need to cut debt. We need to eliminate the deficit and balance the budget. The path we’re on is not sustainable.


Spending money to save money reduces spending. We spend $150-300b on illegals a year. Wouldn't spending $50b one time to reduce it even 10-20% be worth it?

We're not going to keep illegals out of schools or hospitals, so you have to be realistic. Spend money to reduce the numbers which saves you in the long run. Being principled doesn't mean you have common sense.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17962 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:26 pm to
Paul shouldn't have mentioned it.

Trump not showing much class by doing it.

Not a good look for either of them.
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
3655 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:26 pm to
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I used to like Rand… Massie and Amash used to be some of my favorites… until they disagreed with Dear Leader


There. I FIFY.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10817 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:27 pm to
I figured there would be a reason why he wanted to cut the proposed amount.

From the link you sent me;

quote:

“The wall, if you look at the [Customs and Border Protection (CBP)] website — until they removed it yesterday — they said it would cost $6.5 million per mile” to build the border wall, Paul said.

“If you add that up for about 1,000 miles that’s $6.5 billion. They asked for $46.5 billion, so they got a math problem,” he added. “Instead of addressing the math problem, CBP took that off their website two days ago.”


Seems to make total sense to me
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11354 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:32 pm to
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Trump tried the same thing in 2018 trading border security for amnesty. Is Trump open borders?


What are Trump's and Rand's opinions on immigration in 2025?

Does one seem to have more of an understanding of the dangers of immigration right now more than the other?
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11354 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:35 pm to
It's a picnic. They probably just didn't want Mr. Personality ruining the mood.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
6265 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:38 pm to
$6.5m a mile is a cheap bid, thats only $1200 per foot. You have to factor in they need to acquire a lot of the land from private owners, maintenance, and surveillance

I would rather give ICE what it requests this time around, then have to deal with this shite again next year once we find out it wasnt enough. Homan has a good track record of getting shite done.

There is a good chance we dont win the midterms, better to get ICE the resources needed now than be roadblocked
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56550 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:58 pm to
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Trump is petty and vindictive. This is not something we all did not know.


Yep, though it sounds like he might make up with Elon, but only because Elon realizes he is wrong and apologizing

Rand Paul is right and should not apologize

the spending is rediculous, we need Trump to beat that horn
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:38 pm to
The border wall isn't the only thing.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65345 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:41 pm to
The White House barbecue. It was a crab boil the year I went. It's supposed to be non-partisan and apolitical.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157758 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:45 pm to
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runs to the media


That’s bad.


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:44 am to
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I don't need the rest of anything.


Yeah. Don’t get confused with facts. Stick with your strongly held opinions instead!!

Bitch.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138862 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:02 am to
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So you’re saying Rand fricking Paul is a RINO? Hilarious
It's true in the same vein AOC and a litany of her brethren are DINOs. They are communist-socialists. Rand is libertarian.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23766 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:06 am to
I stated this earlier about Massie in another thread. Just insert Paul's name for Massie's...


quote:

Massie is impeding the overall good by his refusing to stand behind the "good side". As someone mentioned, "this how politics is played ".
If Massies no longer wishes to play that game, he should resign.

While his "principled " stance may help his personal opinion of himself, it's a hindrance to Trump's efforts to change the direction of this nation.

Without a doubt, the BBB isn't what some of us wanted, but it's a start. It's a momentum builder setting a foundation for the next 3 bills under Trump, which will hopefully continue to make more substantial changes and bring us closer to a balanced budget. There's only so much that can done in one bill.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20112 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:08 am to
A year from now, Trumpflation will devaste the country and Rand will be able to take over the GOP.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10076 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:08 am to
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Paul is 62 years old, its time to let go of the teenage anarcho-capitalist wet dreams


Or time to cut spending.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44414 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:27 am to
quote:

Paul is 62 years old, its time to let go of the teenage anarcho-capitalist wet dreams


So there is no end to crushing gov’t debt? What a shitty take.
Posted by countrytiger60
Larose
Member since Sep 2018
4460 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:34 am to
Pelosi,Schumer, Schiff,and other democrat leaders are very vindictive. so go and blow some hot air somewhere's else.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68398 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:56 am to
Rand is the Bernie Sanders of the right.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6766 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:00 am to
I fine with Paul critiquing the BBB. Spending needs to be cut, and a few are trying to remind the GOP and Trump to cut spending. I don't see the problem with this.
We are close to the point of no return yet the GOP/Dems keep spending. It just seems if the Dems are deficit spending us Rep get bent out of shape and complain but when Trump and GOP do it, we get bent out of shape for republicans calling them out. It's only ok to deficit spend when it is our team doing it?
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