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re: Radical protesters are now invading the homes of our heroic ICE agents and their families,

Posted on 1/17/26 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
9932 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

Undocumented immigrants


aka: Illegal aliens.

Which is why ICE is up there in the first place trying to enforce our country’s immigration laws.



Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13592 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 12:17 pm to
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Just to be clear, are you trying to use AI to argue Terry v Ohio with me?


You're definitely using it to try to argue with me.

But let's leave your fallacy of argument by authority behind. The bolded part I emphasized was the salient point. Everyone agrees that reasonable articulable suspicion is necessary for detainment, so that's irrelevant. In the case of ICE, that apparently extends to whether someone is in country illegally. You seem to think that's not the case, which is why that's the important part.

You can malign AI, but all it does is pull from what's out there. Unless you tell it to, it doesn't make anything up.

So if you doubt that part is true, link to something that supports your opinion.

I'm basing my confidence in what AI returned on the fact that I don't think there's any way that ICE could be detaining the number of people it has detained so far without legal consequences unless what they were doing is legal. There's certainly no shortage of federal judges standing by at the ready to strike down just about anything this administration proposes (sometimes with reason, sometimes without).

You've got to overcome that easily observable phenomonon.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
38072 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 12:27 pm to
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This is good!

Signed,

-4chubbies, VOR, low-t, and the rest of the board leftists.

One of those little spineless twerps was Clark14. I'm certain of it.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30267 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 12:35 pm to
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It's too bad these officers are being used as pawns in this juvenile game of power that Trump is playing.

I swear you're right up there with the dumbest of the dumb lefties on this board. Illegal aliens will continue to be removed from this country, deal with it. Those who aid them and attack federal officers will be arrested and prosecuted. None of this was even remotely controversial when democrat administrations were enforcing immigration laws.
Posted by Megasaurus
Member since Dec 2017
1632 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

This may not end how they think it will


no doubt.

The rules are much different when it comes down to fricking with someone's family..(there are none.)

The left has already established thier intent, so FO stage will be what its going to be
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 1:15 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57898 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 12:44 pm to
“But why do they need masks”

- SFP, tx Tiger, and other TDs libs
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15883 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

It's too bad these officers are being used as pawns in this juvenile game of power that Trump is playing.


Your boy Biden conspired to let in millions of illegals so they could illegally vote for democrats. Trump is stopping it and getting rid of them and yall puss boys want to cry Trump is politically playing a game. You never said a word about Biden so stfu and go cry some more.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
84045 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17502 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 12:55 pm to
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Truth doesn't fit into your agenda?


Ok. Here is your position. If someone drives three times over the legal limit for being drunk.. it's perfectly ok if they don't get caught? Hey! They never been caught before!

Because 100% of illegal aliens are breaking the law.

quote:

Why won't Trump do something about that?


You miss the federal judge, found after judge shopping, granting an injunction stopping this from happening from healthcare and social programs just last year?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 12:57 pm to
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The bolded part I emphasized was the salient point.

What you bolded was completely redundant. You need reasonable suspicion of criminal activity to legally detain anyone. Being unlawfully present, by definition, is criminal activity. It does not need to be separately delineated.

quote:

You seem to think that's not the case, which is why that's the important part.

Tf? When did I say that.

This isn’t complicated. RAS of criminal activity is needed to legally detain someone. By any LEO.


quote:

You can malign AI, but all it does is pull from what's out there. Unless you tell it to, it doesn't make anything up.

I’m not maligning AI, I’m maligning you. Junk in, junk out.


quote:

I don't think there's any way that ICE could be detaining the number of people it has detained so far without legal consequences unless what they were doing is legal.

All of these detentions could be supported by RAS. I never once said anything ICE is doing is illegal. I simply made the correct legal assertion of what is minimally necessary to detain someone in the US. If you agree with me, what was the point of your AI response?
This post was edited on 1/17/26 at 12:58 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65584 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 1:03 pm to
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You can malign AI, but all it does is pull from what's out there
AI is notoriously unreliable and often wrong.
quote:

Unless you tell it to, it doesn't make anything up.
bullshite. AI 'hallucination' is very common, causing it to make up all kinds of things.
quote:

This can range from fake book titles to non-existent legal cases, impacting reliability in critical fields like healthcare. Solutions involve better training data, clearer prompts, using retrieval-augmented generation (RAG), and fact-checking tools, though the issue remains a challenge.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
7182 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 1:14 pm to
Exactly. Set foot in my house soi folk. Find out.
These people are insane.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
13764 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Radical protesters are now invading the homes of our heroic ICE agents and their families,


quote:

Point me to the time stamp of the “home invasion” on the video in OP.


You Liberals don’t like to look into the mirror. Your blue haired cousins are harassing women and children because they don’t like the way ICE is doing their job. This is who you are standing up to be counting with.

Trying to change the subject to something more “palatable” for you is weak.

What do you think of Liberals harassing the wives and children of ICE agents. That’s the topic.
This post was edited on 1/17/26 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 1:22 pm to
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Point me to the time stamp of the “home invasion” on the video in OP.


The leftist DEI “doctor” has decided to drop in to defend his communist comrades
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 1:25 pm to
Sorry, what’s the timestamp?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

Point me to the time stamp of the “home invasion” on the video in OP.

Pretty simple request. Minute and second mark. Thanks
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18059 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 1:28 pm to
These people are playing a dangerous game
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
13764 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 1:30 pm to
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Pretty simple request. Minute and second mark. Thanks


So, you don’t care if they harass women and children so long as there is no video proof of them entering their homes??

Got it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128849 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

AI 'hallucination' is very common, causing it to make up all kinds of things.


Accurate. Interestingly enough, AI will completely fabricate sources and “facts.”

Was in a lecture yesterday on AI and the presenter brought up his own experience of AI fabricating an article and then citing the article. When prompted, the AI agent said that it generated the article itself.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 1:34 pm to
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These residents contribute over $200 million in annual state and local taxes, primarily through sales, property, and income taxes.


Now do the amounts that illegals are receiving in welfare, residence allowances, and other assorted freebies supplied by the prior administration. I’d guess that your alleged $200 million disappears with a quickness and actually turns into a substantial negative.
I agree. Too bad nothing is ever done to prevent this.
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