re: RACISM: The fact that black doctors don't have to meet the same high standards as white

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that still doesn't tell me alot

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Have you ever tried an internet search? or do you prefer spoonfeeding?

I just realized though that you seem to be attempting to argue admission effects d/t AA/DEI were indeterminant or perhaps nonexistent. That is a misinformed argument.

Studies since the SCOTUS "Students for Fair Admissions" finding clarify against your contention. That is despite widespread institutional efforts at work arounds in the aftermath.

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.... what would you perceive the odds are that a Black Pediatrician is the top graduate in his Med School class? If you are being honest, you'd say those odds would be roughly zero.

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What does this have to do with quality of care though? I know that's a very subjective measure, but someone getting good grades does not necessarily mean they have a good bedside manner or an ability to think creatively to diagnose patients. Academic rank does not equate to clinical competence.

We know that every medical student, regardless of their path to admission, must pass the USMLE (United States Medical Licensing Examination) and complete a rigorous residency. Whether someone graduated 1st or 101st in their class, they have met the same rigorous legal and professional standards to practice.

Coincidentally, the only providers I trust are both white men. One is my beloved OBGYN who has an almost cult following because he's so empathetic and down to earth (and competent). I have never once wondered what his rank in medical school was. I've admittedly never wondered what anyone's class rank was, though.

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Hmmm, I wonder where we get doctors from?

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Every medical student, regardless of their path to admission, must pass the USMLE (United States Medical Licensing Examination) and complete a rigorous residency. Whether someone graduated 1st or 101st in their class, they have met the same rigorous legal and professional standards to practice.

Doctors don't wear their GPAs or MCAT scores or Boards scores on their white coats. They are all physicians just the same.

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You are seriously retarded.

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Right...

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A less smart person is likely more prone to making mistakes.

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You think everyone who gets good grades is smart?

Would you like to know my GPA in my doctorate program? Or masters program? Or undergrad?

You would have to admit that I'm really smart.

Huh, you mean like when SCOTUS ruled against Affirmative Action at Harvard? lol

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I do have one black doctor. He’s great.

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Probably a tranny or a Phag

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Even the ones who benefit from DEI should be against it. You’re doomed to a life of people doubting your competence.

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As it's been said many, many times in here, this stupid shite actually creates racism. Because I, sadly, will not go to a black doctor because of this. Never in my wildest dreams, would I have ever thought twice before this.

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complete a rigorous residency.

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Tell me you don't know anything about the inner workings of the healthcare industry without telling me. You sweet summer child.

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We know that every medical student, regardless of their path to admission, must pass the USMLE (United States Medical Licensing Examination)

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Do you believe getting accepted to medical school is the same as passing medical board exams?

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It is a reasonable question. Obviously the two are not the same. But that really is not your question, so let's clarify. In terms of challenges to attainment of medical licensure, med school admission is far and away the single largest barrier.

Failure to pass the USMLE after multiple attempts is nearly unheard of. So in terms of attaining MD licensure, the USMLE is basically no barrier at all. I know it may seem counterintuitive, but (unlike the Bar Exam, CPA, CFA, etc) candidates seated for USMLE Step3 almost universally pass on the first attempt. There are reasons for that, but it's a different topic.

However, USMLE Steps 1 & 2 serve as significant barriers to entry in certain medical specialities (Neurosurg, Ortho, Plastics, G/U, Derm, etc.), and in the case of more competitive programs, even for the less competitive specialties. For med students, that is the real importance of the tests.

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I've admittedly never wondered what anyone's class rank was, though.

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Nor should you. General rule of thumb -- in a career educational/training process, the final contributory stage is the most important. Meaning, it's your doctor's residency/fellowship and performance in training which is probably where your focus should be, if you're ever looking at such things. Undergrad/MedSchool are simply steps arriving to that end. JFYI.