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re: Pelosi & Schumer: open the gov first, then let’s talk. Trump to speak shortly

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Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:03 pm to
meeting over the weekend about the border.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:04 pm to
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Trump responded he will NOT open the government, and will keep it closed for Months or years if needed.


That's going to be a lot of garbage on the Mall!
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:07 pm to
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I just want to reiterate how asinine it is Trump/Congress waited until 2019 to get this done.


in what alternate reality have you been living?

there never was a Trump/Congress, the never trump republican majority are the ones who gave us mueller and the total shite show that followed

the dimms sat back in amused amazement as rino republicans out did the dimms wildest dreams of obstructionism
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
8110 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:12 pm to
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That's going to be a lot of garbage on the Mall!


But isn't that the reason we are letting the illegals in in the first place? To do the jobs Americans won't?

Hire a few thousand of them to take up the slack and lets see what the Dems do or say?
Posted by frogglet
Member since Jul 2018
1161 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:15 pm to
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The cost is a drop in the bucket and they could have gotten DACA out of it and started to work on infrastructure.


Wait, didn't they make some kind of offer using DACA but it was rejected?

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If they were smart they would have given him his wall right from the beginning.


Republicans have controlled the entire federal government for the last 2 years. This IS the beginning for the democrats. This is literally the first time they have control over anything since Trump was elected. A better question might be why republicans didn't want to fund the wall until it became impossible to do so?
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:18 pm to
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Pelosi & Schumer: open the gov first, then let’s talk.
Oh, how stupid do they think the American people are? Of course, they used it to their benefit with Obama Care: "You have to vote for it first - then we'll tell you what's in it". Member? They are so desperate and full of shite. Trump need to dig in. They can't disguise their desperation.

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Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
2536 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:23 pm to
Why isn’t McConnell there with POTUS?
Posted by Giant Leaf
On Leaf
Member since Nov 2015
4229 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:23 pm to
I have a better idea Nance

Burn every three letter federal agency building to the ground with the employees inside. Nothing of value would be lost.

My compromise part? Hire illegals to clean up the ashes and throw the bodies into the Potomac

Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36192 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:25 pm to
Hiring illegals to replace the federal govt employees is the greatest idea I’ve ever heard!
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13560 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:28 pm to
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Either it's a worthwhile endeavor or it isn't - the amount of money needed is largely irrelevant.

Part of what may make something worthwhile is the amount of money spent on it.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:28 pm to
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in what alternate reality have you been living? there never was a Trump/Congress, the never trump republican majority are the ones who gave us mueller and the total shite show that followed the dimms sat back in amused amazement as rino republicans out did the dimms wildest dreams of obstructionism




Getting the wall built was going to be monumentally more difficult in 2019 than it has been for the past two years. That's a reality. Trump could have stood his ground for funding for two years, but he never tried.

Now he's decided to fight, which is fine, but the timing is idiotic given the last 2 years.
Posted by cajunandy
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
893 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:29 pm to
Trump will veto then you need 20 Republican senators to override a veto. 2/3 vote of the senate. Please name the 20.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89068 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:30 pm to
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Pelosi & Schumer: open the gov first, then let’s talk.


Trump: frick you. I’m wise to your schtick. You’re not gonna burn me the way you’ve burned past GOP Presidents.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:31 pm to
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Part of what may make something worthwhile is the amount of money spent on it.


For extreme numbers, sure, but I've seen people say the wall is "only" $5B, as if that's a reason to do it.

Either border security is important or it isn't. The wall is a good idea or it isn't. If it's a good idea, I don't need to be persuaded by it "only" being $5B. If it's a bad idea, spending any amount of money on it is dumb.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:33 pm to
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Perhaps he writing a new chapter.
He could do like Barack Insane Obummer and write a complete book, for profit, while in office! More fun watching hypocritical heads exploding on that one!
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36192 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:33 pm to
Can’t believe nobody else is on board with getting the government running again for cents on the dollar with illegal labor. Think how much money we could save if everyone in DC was replaced with an illegal. Then we could afford the border for sure.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:47 pm to
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Trump will veto then you need 20 Republican senators to override a veto. 2/3 vote of the senate. Please name the 20.



2/3rds of the House too.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:48 pm to
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Republicans have controlled the entire federal government for the last 2 years.


What? They had the White House, had a majority in the House, and they didn’t have 60 votes in the Senate. So they didn’t “control” the entire Federal government without 9 more compliant votes in the Senate. Which they didn’t have. You’re dumb.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:50 pm to
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Now he's decided to fight, which is fine, but the timing is idiotic given the last 2 years.


Cocaine Mitch sold him a bad line about waiting on the Wall. It’s not dumb for him to deciding to fight now. He needs to do it, regardless of the past.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134923 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:53 pm to
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Pelosi & Schumer: open the gov first, then let’s talk.
President George H.W. Bush got tricked into raising taxes by a similar tactic.

The Dems told him if he agreed to raising taxes (contradicting his "read my lips, no new taxes" pledge) they would be willing to negotiate budget cuts afterwards.

He did and they didn't.

Dems can't be trusted.
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