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re: Pelosi & Schumer: open the gov first, then let’s talk. Trump to speak shortly

Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20515 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:53 pm to
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open the gov first, then let’s talk


"I will gladly pay you Tuesday, for a hamburger today"
Posted by frogglet
Member since Jul 2018
1161 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:56 pm to
No, they actually did control the senate. They didn't have a filibuster-proof majority, but they don't need one. First of all they can just change the senate procedure rules with a simple majority to get around the 60-vote filibuster rule. More importantly it never even got to that point. They never even tried to fund the wall, which means there certainly was never any filibuster that needed to be busted. Are you really denying the obvious fact that republicans didn't want to fund the wall? You think it's just a coincidence that suddenly as democrats came to power they made their first attempts after doing nothing for 2 years?
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37335 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:56 pm to
Interesting. Trump doing his art of the deal. He knows the dems need to open the government to implement their agenda.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42085 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:58 pm to
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He is LIVE


The wall just got 10 feet higher
Posted by Hightide12
Member since Nov 2012
2730 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 2:00 pm to
Trump killed it.
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2393 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 2:03 pm to
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Perhaps he writing a new chapter.



Hard for him to do, since he didn't write any of it.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11854 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 2:10 pm to
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Hard for him to do, since he didn't write any of it.


And the Art of the Deal Ghostwriter doesn't even think he read it either.

quote:

The man who helped co-author President Trump’s bestselling book, “The Art of the Deal,” tore into the president for his recent tweet bragging about his writing skills. “He is incapable of reading a book, much less writing one,” Tony Schwartz tweeted on Wednesday.


The Hill
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 2:13 pm to
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Dems can't be trusted.


Reagan trusted the Democrats in the 80's as well.

Course I don't care what he thought he had negotiated for, Reagan failed epicly by signing that Amnesty Bill regardless.

One of the big post '65 stepping stones to this current situation.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 5:03 pm to
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No, they actually did control the senate. They didn't have a filibuster-proof majority, but they don't need one. First of all they can just change the senate procedure rules with a simple majority to get around the 60-vote filibuster rule.


So just go Harry Reid, eh? No political ramifications for that? God you’re fricking dumb.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 5:12 pm to


frick that shite

Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 5:54 pm to
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The cost is a drop in the bucket and they could have gotten DACA out of it and started to work on infrastructure.
I don't think they were ever going to get a straight DACA deal without strings attached.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 6:06 pm to
Cant trust those rotten bastards. Keep it shut until they fund border security!
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76503 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 6:40 pm to
Gee if I was a professional poker player I would say they are playing a weak hand.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
8885 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:08 pm to
I believe Reagan fell for something similar to that...once.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104070 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:05 pm to
Which is win win IMHO. It means they abandoned their jobs, so no Civil Service protection, and keeps them from increasing their retirement.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104070 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:08 pm to
I doubt the Wharton School Of Business was handing out degrees to illiterates.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104070 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:08 pm to
Reagan didn’t have the benefit of having watched a predecessor gal for it.
Posted by frogglet
Member since Jul 2018
1161 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:01 pm to
Honestly can't believe you want to argue that Republicans didn't have control of the senate and therefore couldn't even attempt to bring up funding for the wall. Really? So how on earth are they able to try now? What magically changed? The only thing that changed is now that democrats have control of the house they can be sure that if they propose funding for the wall it won't get passed, so they don't have to worry about that actually happening. Why don't republicans want the wall to actually be funded? Why do they just want to appear to want it?
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18630 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:15 pm to
Pelosi and Schumer have spent the last few years absolutely refusing to have any real negotiations regarding the wall... but yeah, I'm sure that they'll do real negotiations in the future, after they've gotten what they want.


Pelosi and Schumer are retarded. Everyone knows that if trump caves and opens the gov...that Pelosi and Schumer will do the same shite next time also.
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:18 pm to
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The worse it looks for Dems look for not wanting work with Trump..


Wait until tax refund time comes. There are no refunds while the gov't is shutdown. Low income people who get a refund, but do not pay any taxes will nearly revolt when their money gets halted. This is when Chuck and Nancy will feel the heat.
Trump will say, "i have been trying to get the dims to negotiate, but they chose to stay at home or on vacation. The dims do not want to negotiate, and want to keep the gov't shutdown."
After that he needs to say, I want $10 billion now.
A lot of these low income people vote for the dims, so they will want Nancy to do whatever Trump wants, "Just get us our money!!!!"
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