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re: Our proxy Ukraine has struck another Russian oil refinery

Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:46 am to
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
51113 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:46 am to
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We might see $10 Diesel.


Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
4780 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:50 am to
There ain't gonna be any marching. There's gonna be some launching. 1 or 2 will probably quiet the Ukraine. Rest of the world will have to do nothing, or escalate. I see a lot of do nothing.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43247 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:53 am to
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It's always Trump's fault. He's responsible for everything bad in the world.


Putin launched a second invasion of Ukraine and it’s Trump’s Problem?

People in this thread defending. Putin and Russia don’t have a clue.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
21275 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:57 am to
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Trump could end the war by stop sending them money and weapons. He could end this any time he wants.


You are joking I hope. You are on a political site with no knowledge of how the govt functions?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
8366 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:59 am to
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The globalists are now using Ukraine to hurt Trump and affect the elections. That’s the only logical reason why they are hitting the refineries at this point.

What are you, 13?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
25157 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 9:01 am to
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Incorrect. It is to pressure the invading Russians. The invaders withdraw, it all ends.


Yes in fairytale land you're correct.

How exactly is the US going to force Russia to leave Ukraine?

Weve armed Ukraine for years.
Weve been directing their missile strikes for years.
Weve been advising their military for years.
Weve tried draconian economic sanctions.

None of it has worked and Russia has more of everything than Ukraine does.

Spoiler alert: they think theyre in an existential battle against the globalists that put Z in power. They arent leaving absent US armored divisions pushing them out.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
21275 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 9:03 am to
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That money needs to be earmarked elsewhere.


It cant be, once budgeted it cant be clawed back, it has to be spent. Our lovely congress took the power of the budget away from the office of management and budget in the early 70s.

Given the production pipeline we will still be delivering weapons into 2029.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
350,000 Post Karma
Member since Aug 2013
11525 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 9:03 am to
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This comes after Trump asked Z not to strike the oil refineries. Why doesn’t he get this animal on a leash?


He can't. He's not near the alpha male his cultists like to believe.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
111220 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 9:05 am to
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Aren't you glad we gave them billions.


How else to expect our politicians to get their kickbacks?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117966 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 9:07 am to
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Total failure by Trump especially since he told us he would end this War on Day One of his second term.


Kinda hard to do when your party wants to keep pumping money to Sniffy and joins with the Dems and media to cast Putin as the anti-Christ.

but, yeah, Trump's fault
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16714 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 9:11 am to
Russia hasn't been exporting for months and its products are sanctioned.

Iran no longer shipping crude to China, so China stopped exporting products. Europe had outsourced refining to Russia and after sanctions changed that import stream to China and India.

Russia is in the middle of a very poor harvest and high diesel prices for its farmers have made it poorer. Its wheat is a 2nd grade wheat not even close to US quality.. Strong El Nino's typically have a negative effect on crops in Russia like in the 1970s when it purchased so much wheat from the US, tankers were converted to bulk grain
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26610 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 9:28 am to
Europe is going to be in quite the pinch if they can't get diesel from Russia and the US halts diesel exports.

Maybe when Europe has no diesel, they'll pull back their support of Zelensky and force his hand on accepting a peace deal
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
42091 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 10:38 am to
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Big oil is GOUGING us.


Supply and demand. Hate to see it.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
In the woods and by the waters.
Member since Dec 2016
38905 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 10:38 am to
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Our proxy Ukraine has struck another Russian oil refinery

That will help diesel prices for sure.


A 2008 average puts diesel prices from that year at around $4/gallon while cost per barrel of crude averaged $98/barrel for the year.

The national average cost of diesel today is $6.53/gallon with a cost per barrel of crude at $93.82/barrel with most of the SoH being circumvented or lightly contested and an absolute shiteload of diesel being produced at North American refineries.

We're being gouged and lied to, there is no question. Everyone talk all you want about the myriad secondary and tertiary reasons for high prices, but I challenge you to look at big oil profit margins at this very moment and leave the narrative out of it. This shares similarities with what we lived through during the GWB era when he and his oil tycoon buddies amassed multi-generational wealth in the span of 18 months.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29353 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 10:41 am to
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Spoiler alert: they think theyre in an existential battle against the globalists that put Z in power.

Complete horseshite.

Instead of “globalist” you should use “gremlins.” It would be about the same. Apparently the “globalists” are out there sabotaging everything. Who are they?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
62066 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 10:46 am to
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We're being gouged


Please stop using this word.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49989 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 10:48 am to
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tell Putin to do as he pleases, we are out of it. I wouldn’t even care if Putin marched on Europe at this point due to the Muslim take over.


I tend to agree with this.

The whole world is going crazy.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
59263 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 11:07 am to
There so Russia can bomb all their businesses and industries, but they're not allowed to do the same. Got it
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
27008 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 11:21 am to
Just because you dont like GOUGE doesnt mean it aint so. Explain away record big oil profits..

Diesel pricing in the past was much lower with similar crude numbers. A case can certainly be made that pricing is being manipulated.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
8366 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 11:23 am to
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Complete horseshite.

Not really if you listen to Russia's concerns.
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 Apparently the “globalists” are out there sabotaging everything. Who are they?

The USA post WW2 has been the greatest globalist power. Us, along with NATO, did what we said we would not do when we signed a treaty with Russia. We encroached upon them by constantly adding more and more nations to NATO(an inherently globalist organization), an organization created to be hostile to the USSR and later Russia.

Got it now?
This post was edited on 9/25/26 at 11:25 am
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