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re: Our proxy Ukraine has struck another Russian oil refinery

Posted on 9/25/26 at 7:51 am to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11892 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 7:51 am to
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who else should be blamed?


With the dressing down of Zelensky in the Oval Office, I thought "Wow, Trump really is going to end this."

Since then? Nothing but sending in two real estate guys to do the jobs of trained and credentialed diplomats.

Posted by SWINC
Member since Sep 2022
630 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 7:52 am to
One strike on the little sumbeach could end this
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70787 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 7:52 am to
That's a definitely a problem with the Russia and Iran situations. Sending two real estate guys is not ideal.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
43975 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 7:52 am to
Diesel prices were coming down. So much for that.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
11577 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 7:54 am to
You know what would help diesel prices?

If Illinois governor JB Pritzker would get off his fat arse and reopen one of the largest US diesel refiners …. closed due to a suspicious power outage.

He’s likely waiting for the mid term elections, eh?

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The refinery operation has been offline for a week following a power disruption “found on ComEd’s primary and secondary power lines feeding into the Joliet refinery.” The company made the statement on Thursday, adding that power to the refinery was fully restored.

However, with the power turned off floodwater overwhelmed a pumping station leading to flooding around the refinery which has compounded the outage. The timing of this; the type of problem, together with the location (40 miles southwest of Chicago, Ill, near the intersection of Interstate 55 and the DesPlaines River) are aligned datapoints in a review of the consequence.

Given the nature of geopolitics right now and the intention to politically weaponize the price of gasoline and diesel, everything just looks too coincidental.
This post was edited on 9/25/26 at 8:05 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11892 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 7:55 am to
quote:

Sending two real estate guys is not ideal.


At least they're full time employees of the United States who are prohibited from having any conflicts of interest. Oh...wait.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
34233 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 7:56 am to
I’m sure the board will correct me, but I heard we have a not built a new refinery since the 70’s? Meanwhile China has been stocking up.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38473 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 7:58 am to
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Are you serious? The globalists are now using Ukraine to hurt Trump and affect the elections. That’s the only logical reason why they are hitting the refineries at this point. Trump needs to tell Putin to do as he pleases, we are out of it. I wouldn’t even care if Putin marched on Europe at this point due to the Muslim take over.


Retard melt of the day, thanks for this
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
27023 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 7:58 am to
Which POTUS administration or Congress though it was wise to support Ukraine?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
43975 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:06 am to
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I’m sure the board will correct me, but I heard we have a not built a new refinery since the 70’s?


Trump got the first one in 50 years permitted.

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President Trump announced that America First Refining will build a 168,000-barrel-per-day refinery in Brownsville, Texas, a deep-water port with direct rail and sea access, supported by investment from India’s Reliance Industries. The facility — the first new major U.S. refinery project in roughly 50 years — will operate on light shale oil and help reduce the U.S. trade deficit with India by $300 billion. Many Gulf Coast refineries ?are unable to process light, sweet oil from ?fracking shale fields because they were configured in the last 40 years to run on lower-cost heavy, sour oil, which has higher density and has been readily available from Canada, Venezuela, and Mexico. U.S. light oil resources were on the decline before hydraulic fracking and directional drilling brought an explosion in production. America First plans to break ground on the refinery in the second quarter of this year.


https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/trump-announces-new-refinery-the-first-in-50-years/
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
18119 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:06 am to
Trump needs to start pressuring the Russians into getting something signed. They’re the only ones who haven’t agreed or want to stop hostilities. They’re the reason this started and they’re the reason it hasn’t ended yet. Insanity.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
18320 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:23 am to
Who is The Hormuz Letter outside of an X account?

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Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
5050 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:26 am to
didn't trump just sign that lindsey graham bill into law? putting even more sanctions on russia's sale of diesel.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
25157 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:31 am to
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This comes after Trump asked Z not to strike the oil refineries. Why doesn’t he get this animal on a leash?


The only paths to peace there are us pulling our support completely or Z not existing.

The best path for all involved is a peace deal not including Z where Ukraine doesnt lose more than they already have and that creates a lasting deal by granting Russia what they already have while promising Ukraine immediate entrance to NATO if Russia launches any further attacks whatsoever.

Ukraine signs the deal or collapses.
Russia signs the deal or is in open war with NATO.
The US stops funding a proxy war that doesnt benefit us.
We launch a partnership deal with Ukraine to rebuild using their minerals and eradicate the globalists and gangsters currently running that county.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29353 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:34 am to
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The only paths to peace there are us pulling our support completely or Z not existing.

Incorrect. It is to pressure the invading Russians. The invaders withdraw, it all ends.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
56948 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:36 am to
quote:

Aren't you glad we gave them billions upon billions.


FIFY
Posted by 3rdDOWN
Member since Sep 2026
106 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:37 am to
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Once again, the energy issue is totally self inflicted.
As if this statement makes any sense. Ukraine blows up refinery and somehow its still Trumps fault
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46901 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:39 am to
Poor Russia. If only Ukraine had not invaded their sovereign nation none of this would be happening.

This really is all Ukraines fault for their naked aggression.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
2107 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:44 am to
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This comes after Trump asked Z not to strike the oil refineries. Why doesn’t he get this animal on a leash?


Z agreed to this if, Putin would refrain from striking Ukrainian energy infrastructure. Putin wouldn't agree so, FAFO.
Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
2254 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:44 am to
Trump could do himself a solid here and quit supplying Ukraine with intel and money. Maybe turn away and let Russia finish the job. Z Man’s time should be about up.
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