re: Oregon Gov. Kate Brown commutes sentences of all death row inmates

And the left hates dictatorship.


Nothing like shitting on the system you voted in

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Scary how many "small-government conservatives" around here are totally ok with the state having the authority to kill one of its own citizens.

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The state didn't pick someone up and say you will die. These people committed such heinous crimes that in a state like Oregon, a group of their peers unanimously agreed that their acts were such that they not only needed to be removed from society, but that they no longer deserved the resources of said society.

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Also, the pro-life contingent around here is only pro-life until the fetus is born. They don't give a shite beyond that.

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I think there are a few, but I also think most would just rather see the money appropriated to be used more efficiently. If we spend X on social care and it isn't effective as anything more than a crutch is it working? Our social system in America has effectively become a flood control that we dump billions into, that instead of relieving flooding has just made it where a larger area gets flooded.

I think what has happened at Twitter currently is a good representation of what needs to happen at the government level from the local level to the federal level. There are a lot of high five and six figure positions that are redundant, or not required outside a third party private contract from time to time. Want a good picture of this? Look at underfunded schools that fail children every day. Then look at the cost per student per year. Then look at what board members and other "executive" positions within that school system make.

Per capita, and per percentage of income Conservatives give more to charity than Liberals. The whole not caring is BS, the difference is one side wants to help direct, the other wants the government to raise taxes, create a board, and provide pennies on the dollar collected to those who need it.

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These people were not found guilty by the government. They were found guilty by a jury of their peers. Do you not understand how the justice system works?

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Lol. No, I’m just a retard that has no clue.

The government is run by ordinary people and they are the one prosecuting people for crimes; they have a stacked deck, often misrepresenting or withholding facts and evidence to manipulate juries to convict and then sentence to death a defendant who has inadequate representation, which is often inadequately funded by the government. The government chooses to seek a penalty of death, then pursues that goal with a desire to achieve it.

There have been numerous wrongful convictions and releases from death row based on DNA evidence. Numerous instances of prosecutorial misconduct that have led juries to believe guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

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Now do the babies scheduled for execution at all planned parenthood facilities across Oregon.

States shouldn’t be in the business executing anyone right?

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And don't think for a second that left wing activists won't be moving on towards getting them released next. And when they do get released and kill again the blood will be directly on their hands. Thing is, they won't care. Cults be like that

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You think liberals are going to push for releasing the worst of the worst violent criminals?

I don’t know why everyone has to be so black and white about things and paint the other side of the political aisle as insane or the bad guys. Does it make you feel better?

Tribalism in politics sucks and ruins this country way more than the left (or right) individually ever could.

When you say things like this, you’re just the other side of the coin to the people who say republicans are white supremacists.

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There have been numerous wrongful convictions and releases from death row based on DNA evidence. Numerous instances of prosecutorial misconduct that have led juries to believe guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

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True, but doesn't change the fact that they were all found guilty by a jury, not the State.

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"I have long believed that justice is not advanced by taking a life, and the state should not be in the business of executing people — even if a terrible crime placed them in prison," Brown said in a statement.

No prisoner in Oregon has been executed in 25 years.

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I'm curious, how many prisoners have died at the hands of other prisoners while incarcerated? Is she against that too? If so, is she for solitary confinement and full isolation 24/7? At least the state when they execute uses a somewhat painless method. Getting shanked won't be quite as pleasant.

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True, but doesn't change the fact that they were all found guilty by a jury, not the State.

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In all those cases, the government sought the death penalty, and they did so because they were thoroughly convinced that they were right. They then used a stack deck to convince a jury to agree with them and ratify their decision. In many instances, key pieces of evidence were ignored and concealed to achieve this goal.

The jury doesn’t have a chance to sentence a man to death unless the government chooses pursues that goal. And juries inherently believe the government off the bat, so it is up to a defense attorney to convince them otherwise.

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and the state should not be in the business of executing people

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except when we call it abortion.

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And don't think for a second that left wing activists won't be moving on towards getting them released next. And when they do get released and kill again the blood will be placed on guns if possible

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Fixed.