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re: Officials announce proposal that would establish California as separate nation

Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:08 am to
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12662 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:08 am to
California's economy is backed by the Federal Government. That economy would be backed by what if they seceded?

The military personnel and equipment belong to the USA and we would not just let California have it.

California could not stand on their own.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41826 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:10 am to
I would love nothing more than for California to be its own nation. Buhbye.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:11 am to
quote:

California basically carries this nation


Holy shite you're delusional as frick.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22950 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:11 am to
Bye. They will crash and burn in 5 years.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:11 am to
Can we extend the wall the curve up the Cali border? Shouldn't be too difficult.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61429 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:12 am to
Lol how is anyone still talking about this? It isn't happening, every single state not named California would have to agree unanimously for them to leave the US. It's not happening, so give up.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
31007 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:13 am to
quote:

California's economy is backed by the Federal Government. That economy would be backed by what if they seceded?

The military personnel and equipment belong to the USA and we would not just let California have it.

California could not stand on their own.


I agree.

It would also be brutal to the US economy and infrastructure if they left as well.

It's terrible for both parties, not just California.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19315 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:15 am to
We could to a point, but the state line crosses through Lake Tahoe.

At that point it needs to be moved to the west so the lake basin is entirely in the US. I'm not willing to give up that big, deep, blue, beautiful lake to a bunch of tree-huggers who would drain it for the benefit of some stupid fish.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147665 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:25 am to
This is the best idea I have heard of. We have what is called Hollywood East on the East Coast in Coastal NC. So we can have our movies too. They can have Madonna et al...

Make this happen. But they cannot get bailed out monetarily, and when their BFF commie countries take them over, our military won't be there for them. Let their SJW's fight in their fricked up unicorn and fairy dust land. They can have Crooked Hillary as their POTUS and just about all of the democratic party.

We can negotiate for a few classical Hollywood movies and movie sets and in return they can have McCain, Kasich, and Graham, even Romney and Glenn Beck.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:27 am to
Hell yeah! California is one the states I vote in. I know how I'm voting.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61962 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:28 am to
LOL. One natural disaster there and they will be broke


Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Desalination plants would work well for CA.

Yeah, I'm sure.

Let's see the largest desalination plant in the Western Hemisphere is the Carlsbad desalination plant.

The idea started in 1993 and was opened in 2015. Actual construction started in 2012 and was completed in 2015. Original cost projections started at 250 million but cost ballooned to 1 billion dollars by the time the project was complete.

The plant can supposedly generate up to 50,000,000 gallons of potable water per day. San Diego County can demand up to 86% of it's output and it is expected to provide 7% of the water for the San Diego area.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Agreed, though Nevada gets quite a bit of revenue from shell corporations formed for that purpose (many of which claim Incline Village--on the north shore of Lake Tahoe--as their corporate address).


All of those locations are inside of the US. I meant succeeding California, can't have us accounts to hide their cash. Because taxes will be 80% in that new country.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57496 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:35 am to
Last time a few states wanted to leave the Union, the aggressive Lincoln brigade started a war. Is it time to repay the favor?
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
7856 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:40 am to
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proposal in California has been submitted to the Secretary of State’s Office on Thursday campaigning for the state to secede from the United States. The proposed “Calexit” initiative would ask voters to repeal part of the state constitution that declares California an inseparable part of the U.S. A recent poll suggested that one in three California residents would support a possible secession from the U.S. due to their opposition to President Donald Trump. No mention has been made of the president in the proposal. If the proposal qualifies for the ballot and is approved by voters, it could be a step to a future vote on whether the state would break away from the rest of the nation. Secretary of State Alex Padilla said the group behind the proposal, Yes California Independence Campaign, was cleared to begin attempting to collect nearly 600,000 voter signatures needed to place the plan on the ballot. The Los Angeles Times reported that the supporters of the proposal have said California does not share the same cultural ideas as the rest of America.


But then:

Trump orders the US Military to:

Make Cali a no fly zone and shut down all air in and out of the state.

Blockade all ports with the US Navy. No ships in or out.

Close all rail and interstates and roads into and out with the US Army.

Shut down all electric and water fed into the state with the US Army Corp of Engineers.

Marines Corps on standby for when they fell ready to strike back.

Take the San Diego Naval base and Camp Pendleton back and occupy.

What Then?
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:42 am to
Support. Republicans that block this are idiots. California is more than capable of being their own country.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:44 am to
Why would the US engage in war with California? That makes no sense. Are you advocating war, prohibiting companies from selling their energy to whomever they want and blockades of trade?

Republicans have become so anti free trade it seems.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57477 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:46 am to
As I said before, neither I, nor a member of my family, will take up arms to stop them from leaving.
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:51 am to
quote:

The Los Angeles Times reported that the supporters of the proposal have said California does not share the same cultural ideas as the rest of America.


And this why the electoral college exists and functions the way it was intended.
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
Member since Nov 2015
7958 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:51 am to
I think we should beat them to the punch and secede from them.
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