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re: Officials announce proposal that would establish California as separate nation

Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:08 am to
Posted by TheRodFather
Member since Sep 2014
619 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:08 am to
Having a civil war with California to preserve the union may actually be the fastest way to fix that state. We could eliminate a good portion of the low-life's and dregs of society pretty quickly and make cali great again.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20955 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:10 am to
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Desalination plants would work well for CA


No doubt, but how to power them (or even pay for them)?

I can't imagine they would use fossil fuels, and solar doesn't put out that much power. Nuclear? I doubt it given the Greenpeace SJW's.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17563 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:11 am to
About time. Remove all funding and military.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26994 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:12 am to
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No it wouldn't. California basically carries this nation, and they probably have more military personnel in CA per capita than any other state.


You do know that the term "per capita" means, right? You actually think all the troops in California could withstand an invasion force from the rest of the military?

For starters, do you really think that all the troops stationed in California are Californians? Ships in port, air bases, etc...those are all commanded and fully manned by citizens of California?
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:12 am to
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California is going to secede to keep their slaves


Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20955 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:13 am to
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For starters, the majority of Puerto Ricans don't want


Yet they complain about no congressional representation and no way to establish bankruptcy.



Offer them debt restructuring in return for statehood.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:13 am to
I think every state should secede
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26994 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:15 am to
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Yet they complain about no congressional representation and no way to establish bankruptcy.



Offer them debt restructuring in return for statehood.



Sure, some of them complain. They also don't pay taxes, even though they have full US citizenship. Their passports are the same color as yours and mine. The majority think they have it pretty damn good the way it is.
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 9:16 am
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14098 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:17 am to
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The Los Angeles Times reported that the supporters of the proposal have said California does not share the same cultural ideas as the rest of America.


Lmao. No shite.its ok when it was there ideas and 80% of the country didn't agree with them and they were fricking happy as a lark. Good luck when our military isn't there to cover there arse and Mexico goes in dry.

Have fun with that. I say let northern California stay and cut the south out. They can live their utopia
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35679 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:18 am to
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A recent poll suggested that one in three California residents would support a possible secession from the U.S. due to their opposition to President Donald Trump


So what happens when a new Dem becomes President? Do they get to come back? Say a BP sorry.

The Left can't stop thinking of ways to grandstand to show how upset they are.
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 9:18 am
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:20 am to
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19315 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:21 am to
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Moreover, TX is now a swing state like Florida, and the Dems actually gained more ground in TX this last election.


EVERY party gained ground in Texas in terms of number of votes.

The GOP lost in terms of percentage of vote but it wasn't due to Hillary or left leaning causes. The Dems only gained around 2%. The Green Party actually saw a near-tripling of their votes.

The group that cut into the GOP vote was the Libertarians; they tripled their vote and nearly tripled their percentage of votes (and if McMullin wasn't running may have picked up even more votes).
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40280 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:25 am to
I would literally carpet bomb Hollywood then ask them for their declaration of defeat.

Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68499 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:27 am to
Leave now so that we can extend the wall.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12707 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:27 am to
I would support trading California for Baja with Mexico
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8020 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:29 am to
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quote:
should they move forward, which is doubtful, the response will be Sherman-esque....


No it wouldn't. California basically carries this nation, and they probably have more military personnel in CA per capita than any other state.


No and no. Kentucky probably has the most per capita, followed by Virginia or South Carolina. And the majority of the people actually serving in California aren't from there. California ranks in the bottom half of states of people actually serving per capita.
Posted by TheRodFather
Member since Sep 2014
619 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:34 am to
Cali is around the 40th in enlistments per capita according to heritage foundation statistics. Bunch of fricking cowards.

Like it or not, most of the people dying in foreign lands for us is southern christian boys.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8020 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:41 am to
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Cali is around the 40th in enlistments per capita according to heritage foundation statistics. Bunch of fricking cowards.

Like it or not, most of the people dying in foreign lands for us is southern christian boys.


I've actually had the good fortune of looking at some of that data before when I was in the service.

If you don't include some of our Pacific island territories (Guam and forth - they are way, way over-represented), the rural mountain West (Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, etc) actually had the highest rate of casualties per capita in the GWOT. Next up was the rural and suburban South and Midwest.

The average casualty skewed young (~20), slightly better educated than his civilian peers, white (~82%), male (obviously - ~98%), and came from a home with a household income slightly higher than the national median.
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:53 am to
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Good. Make it happen, President DJT
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80780 posts
Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:54 am to
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and they probably have more military personnel in CA per capita than any other state.


There are three major Army installations in Texas alone (Hood, Bliss, Sam Houston), and four in Georgia (Hunter Airfield, Stewart, Gordon, Benning).

Plus Ft. Bragg has 15% of the entire Army in its population.
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 9:55 am
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