re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

It seems clear that, psychologically-speaking, Trump has huge regrets over ever starting this war and just wants to sign anything to make it all go away. But this agreement doesn't even do that because, to get Iran to sign it, it was necessary to include a lot of vague clauses that Iran can choose to interpret and apply in a way most humiliating to the US. And their reaction today makes it clear that they have every intention of rubbing our face in the sand on a daily basis, because it raises their stature by lowering ours.

The agreement also sets up this 60-day Kabuki theater of sham negotiations, which, even with likely extensions, will inevitably result in exactly zero grams of enriched uranium leaving Iran. Why should it? We lift the blockade under the deal before they agree to anything so our leverage is all gone. The full scope of this humiliation will play out in the leadup to the midterms, and if you think high gas prices hurts politically, just wait until you see the price of high gas prices + national humiliation. Trump will gradually realize this, which will inevitably result in the war starting up again anyway.

This agreement reminds me of Churchill's statement to Chamberlain after he signed the Munich agreement appeasing Hilter:

“You were given the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war."

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BREAKING: Iran says contrary to what the US claims, the now fully leaked "Memorandum of Understanding" contains no Iranian commitments to hand over nuclear stockpiles, remove equipment, shut down nuclear facilities, or even commit to not build a nuclear bomb. Instead, all nuclear issues are deferred to a 60 day period of negotiations after signing, per Fars News.

For this period to start, the US would need to accept no nuclear commitments from Iran, agree to release $100 billion of Iranian frozen assets, lift the naval blockade, lift all oil and petrochemical sanctions during the negotiation period, pay $270 billion in war reparations, and accept Hormuz under "full permanent sovereign Iranian management and authority" at pre-war traffic levels with no US presence.

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Trump should just tell them to go frick themselves.

Is Trump about to hand Iran more money than Obama ever imagined possible?

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Man has become a clown. He won’t come back from this. It’s over. MAGA is dead. Calling the relationship with Iran “professional” is ridiculous.

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I was one of the biggest Trump supporters on this board in 2016-2024 and I no longer support him over this. He’s literally getting owned by Iran right before our eyes.

Dude, I hope you are right and I really really hope that the sorties that will strike on Memorial Day are being prepared and loaded now. I realllllly do.

But holy shite the news the last 24 hours has been one of the worst 24 hours in trumps political career.

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Senior administration official says the Iran agreement will not be signed today, but indicated progress on a deal. "If the Iranians make significant accommodations on the enrichment question then we will make significant accommodations on sanctions relief,” the official said. On the nuclear issue, the current plan is to deal with the entire stockpile of enriched material. "If you have a final deal where the Iranian are enriching, then you don't have a final deal,” the official added.

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If this is true, then the INITIAL memorandum of understanding needs to commit Iran to remove their nuclear dust and not enrich any more. And even then, we need to hold off on any money we send them until the dust has started to physically leave Iran.

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BREAKING: Iran says contrary to what the US claims, the now fully leaked "Memorandum of Understanding" contains no Iranian commitments to hand over nuclear stockpiles, remove equipment, shut down nuclear facilities, or even commit to not build a nuclear bomb. Instead, all nuclear issues are deferred to a 60 day period of negotiations after signing, per Fars News.

For this period to start, the US would need to accept no nuclear commitments from Iran, agree to release $100 billion of Iranian frozen assets, lift the naval blockade, lift all oil and petrochemical sanctions during the negotiation period, pay $270 billion in war reparations, and accept Hormuz under "full permanent sovereign Iranian management and authority" at pre-war traffic levels with no US presence.

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Wow. We need to bomb the ever living shite out of them and bring them to financial ruin.

Guess if I watched the msm news with their bias I’d be more inclined to be upset right now

Haven’t seen anything official yet from my sources so the current overreaction to unofficial stuff amuses me