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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:40 am to
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:40 am to
Of course they do...a one trick pony only has one trick
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Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:47 am to
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It does nothing to protect against aerial attacks on shipping or our Naval vessels.

The US military is likely wondering if StarLink enabled Shahed drones are being developed. They were used by Russia in Ukraine before Elon shut them down. They were effective in striking moving targets such as trains from a long distance.
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:55 am to
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:06 am to
That part gets a little tricky because you need some verification of who's sending the message.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6566 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:10 am to
I posted the following in the Marine thread. Again, Idk much about how the military uses it's assets so TIFWIW.


Prompt: There are reports of the US deploying a 2,500 man marine expeditionary unit to the middle east. Does this means boots on the ground in Iran is happening or is this not as big a deal as it seems?




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Short answer: No — a 2,500-Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) deploying to the Middle East does not automatically mean the U.S. is about to invade Iran. It’s significant, but it’s also a very common military posture during crises. Here’s what it likely means.



1. What a Marine Expeditionary Unit actually is

- A Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) is a rapid-response force of roughly 2,200–2,500 Marines and sailors deployed with ships, aircraft, and landing craft.

Typical capabilities include:

-Amphibious assaults (landing from ships onto shore)

-Raids or evacuations

-Seizing small objectives like ports or airfields

-Crisis response or hostage rescue

-Security for embassies or bases

They usually deploy on amphibious assault ships and operate offshore, not necessarily inside a country.


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2. What the current deployment likely signals


Recent reporting says the Pentagon is sending an amphibious ready group and a Marine expeditionary unit toward the Middle East because of escalating tensions and Iranian activity in the region.

That kind of deployment usually serves several purposes:

1 Deterrence

Showing Iran that the U.S. can escalate quickly.

2 Regional protection

Protect shipping in places like the Strait of Hormuz.

Defend U.S. bases and allies.

3 Rapid reaction force

If something happens (missile strike, embassy evacuation, hostage crisis), the MEU can respond quickly.


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3. Why this does NOT automatically mean an invasion of Iran


A 2,500-person MEU is far too small for an invasion of Iran.

For context:

Iraq invasion (2003): ~150,000 U.S. troops

Iran military size: ~600,000+ personnel

An MEU is designed for:

short raids

limited operations

crisis response

Not large-scale occupation or war.


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4. What would signal a real ground war instead


If the U.S. were actually preparing for boots-on-the-ground combat in Iran, you’d likely see:

Multiple Army divisions mobilized

Tens of thousands of troops moving

Mass logistics buildup (fuel, armor, supply ships)

Large staging areas in Kuwait, Iraq, or Gulf states

Right now the build-up appears more focused on air, naval, and deterrence forces.

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5. The one caveat


Some officials and lawmakers have warned that ground options have not been ruled out, and special-forces raids inside Iran have reportedly been discussed.

That would look more like:

small special operations missions

targeted raids

temporary landings

—not a full invasion

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Bottom line:


A 2,500-Marine MEU heading to the Middle East is a normal crisis-response deployment, not proof that the U.S. is about to put large numbers of troops into Iran.
Posted by AUTiger1978
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:11 am to
Find where I said that we are fighting Israel’s war. You can’t because I didn’t say that. Apparently you’re still salty because I pushed back on your implication that Walsh is a traitor because he’s not 100% falling in line with what right-leaning commentators are supposed to say.

But since you asked, I think the U.S. is primarily fighting for petrodollar hegemony and to isolate China.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:14 am to
I wouldn’t be surprised if we send in some boots to secure nuclear material and leave
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6566 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:16 am to
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I wouldn’t be surprised if we send in some boots to secure nuclear material and leave


I'd imagine most folks would be okay with a scenario where the Iranian regime surrenders and American units are deployed as security for the engineers to remove the materials and then bounce back home. At least to me, I wouldn't have an issue with that.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:30 am to
Democrats and some Republicans would hate that because it would be seen as a Trump victory.
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:37 am to
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:44 am to


One thing we haven’t seen mentioned is the secondary effects of significant marine oil spill in the Persian Gulf.

There are desalinization plants that dot the coastline from Kuwait city to Dubai. These plants have seawater intakes and that don’t do well when contaminated by oil. You talking a risk of contaminated output and also the risk of damage to the plant itself.

So if a tanker gets hit and there is a significant oil spill, there is a high likelihood some of these plants get shut down.

A number of desalination plants go down and you talking the potential for a massive humanitarian crisis.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:47 am to
Marines take islands.

Rangers/airborne/ air assault would provide security for sfo and scientist at a nuke site.
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 11:50 am
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:48 am to
Hopefully all of the oil burns up while the ship is on fire.
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
2446 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:48 am to
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They also have shore batteries that no one has mentioned.


Why don't the US blanket bomb this area?
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:49 am to
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:50 am to
that is a cooling water outfall, not a desal intake
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 12:09 pm to
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Find where I said that we are fighting Israel’s war. You can’t because I didn’t say that.


You didn't say it directly, but you said it was "bullshite" that Iran is close to having nuclear weapons.

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this is just like Iraq.

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We don’t need this idiotic line that Bibi has been saying for at least 20 years

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the 22 seconds away from having a nuke bullshite has been untrue for 20+ years

It's "Just like Iraq". "Bibi has been saying for at least 20 years." "nuke bullshite has been untrue for 20+ years." Do you think any of those statements have a shred of bearing on the current conflict in 2026? Sorry, that's the logic of idiots when they don't have any facts at their disposal.

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Apparently you’re still salty because I pushed back on your implication that Walsh is a traitor because he’s not 100% falling in line with what right-leaning commentators are supposed to say.

I don't know or care about Matt Walsh's political leanings, have no reason to trust anything he says. He's an internet influencer/propagandist/whatever, no more privy to classified information than you are. The US has a clear national interest in maintaining the free flow of energy in the Middle East/Persian Gulf, and his suggestions that the US is fighting on behalf of Israel are pure nonsense supported by zero logic or evidence. Treason is a legal term, which is why I never used it. But anybody who claims or suggests that the US motive for this conflict is driven by the interests of Israel, and against US interest, is siding with the enemy, IMO. If they're doing it for clicks on a webpage, that makes it no less despicable. If you're gonna make that claim, broadcast it to your followers while fighting is ongoing and US troops are dying, you need a smoking gun in hand.
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 12:38 pm
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
2095 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 12:15 pm to
The act of mobilizing, whether we invade or not, will require a response by Iran. That response leads to exposure of the IRGC and their plans.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10368 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 12:30 pm to
The japanese are pioneering the technology now. Look up their newest ship with a mounted rail gun

They fixed a lot of the integrity issues the US was having that limited viability
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10368 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 12:33 pm to
Those arent MARSOC are they ?
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