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Is our society just folly?


Has been for a long time. Whether it's food or land or homes, gasoline, stocks, bonds, whatever; Sellers want higher prices, buyers want lower prices and they all want the government and US Federal Reserve to manipulate the prices to their advantage. The folly is that the politicians and the Fed did exactly that and they've ruined us in the process.
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language will make it illegal for ICE to arrest an illegal alien in any part of the state.


If that's actually what the legislation says, the Supreme Court should shoot it down at 12:01am on the day it takes affect.
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A unionist believes labor deserves a larger share of corporate profits, safer working conditions, and better benefits than they currently have.


A unionist can believe all of those things, collectively negotiate, etc., but when they ask the government to intercede, aka use force, on their behalf, they've crossed the line to socialism/communism. When the govt can tell the owner of a business they have to pay higher salaries, benefits, etc., the govt controls the business. When the govt decides who the business owner can hire and fire, the govt controls the business. When the government can tell a property owner how much they can charge for rent, the government controls the property.

After that, we're just quibbliing over details about which pieces and parts of private possession the govt needs to redistribute.
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And you're an economic retard.


Most people have a very narrow view of economics. If it's good for me, it's good economics. That's why socialism is such a slippery slope; convince more and more people that the role of govt is to be their benefactor, their support system, and they will willingly vote an entire country into financial oblivion.

85 years ago, John Maynard Keynes gave us a scientific sounding framework for reckless govt spending. He basically said government deficits are good for the economy; we'll pay it back later. Since that time our country has never had a truly serious conversation about debt and limits on government power.
Admissions isn't even the scary part. The scary part is graduation, and certification. The admissions process has been manipulated for a long time, but all students were still required to finish a rigorous curriculum with passing scores. Somewhere along the way, "equity" was introduced into the testing process to ensure that we ended up with an acceptable ratio of "doctors".
It'll be interesting to see where his principles lead him in the next few months.
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Wanna know how many of your faves successfully voted to block this?


I don't have any faves. I couldn't even vote for many years. But when I have a choice between the political wing that gave us the Biden admin and the wing that gave us the Trump admin, I have to choose sanity. Until I see the party that embraces the far left (socialists, communists, open border, antifa, soft on crime, pro-terrorist organizations, etc., etc.) demonstrate a shred of common sense in which voices they project, I can't support a Thomas Massie type "Republican" who plays obstructionist against the right. The sexual harassment fund is 10 miles down the list of real threats to our survival.
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He didn’t try to block it, you lying piece of shite. He voted against a procedural rule that allowed spending bills to come to the floor without a 24-hour notice. He vote for the SAVE Act. You’re one stupid motherfricker.


You're doing it wrong. You're supposed to say, "Yes he voted to block it, but it was a matter of PRINCIPLE.
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Im sure he had to give a reason. Most likely it was his usual. "I didn't like this attached ". So rather than fight on the floor to stop the part he did not like, he tried to kill the whole act.


That's his act. He finds some piddling reason to side with the left and turns it into a matter of PRINCIPLE. There have been times when it was just Thomas and the squad who shared his principles.
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Massie was the 1 “Republican” to vote No on advancing the Save Act to the House floor for a vote. It advanced by 1 vote, despite Massie’s No.


You may have heard; Mr Massie votes strictly according to PRINCIPLE. Just like when he was the only CongressPerson to vote NO on whether Israel has a right to exist. The final tally was 411-1, but Thomas stood up for his PRINCIPLEs.

re: Ro Khanna endorses Thomas Massie

Posted by wdhalgren on 5/19/26 at 2:16 pm to
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I did look at their website. My suspicion is that you haven’t looked at it very closely, or at least haven’t used any critical thinking skills while doing so.


You forgot the :lol:. Your posts aren't as convincing when all you do is type a roundabout way of saying "You're wrong." That derisive laughter is your best debating point.

re: Ro Khanna endorses Thomas Massie

Posted by wdhalgren on 5/19/26 at 2:05 pm to
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I’m sorry, I didn’t realize that NumbersUSA was the arbiter of categorizing immigration legislation.


You're welcome to look at their website. It's very organized and simple to understand, for most people. Or just use laughing emojis as evidence. That probably will work better for you anyway.
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They are parroting an X post


They have a website that tracks immigration voting records for all of Congress. You can find Massie's page without much trouble if you're so inclined.

re: Ro Khanna endorses Thomas Massie

Posted by wdhalgren on 5/19/26 at 1:56 pm to
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He’s against foreign aid commitments and has voted that way his entire congressional career.


Foreign Aid commitments. Sure, sure. That's a great strawman for you.

Won't reaffirm Israels right to exist.
Won't condemn Hamas for terrorism.
Won't condemn support for Hamas and Hezbollah.
Won't agree to impose sanctions on terrorist organizations.
Won't oppose Iran's funding of terrorist organizations.

Only Republican to oppose any of that. Most of the time he was siding with less than a dozen members of the entire House, mainly the Squad of anti-Americans. In one of them, the first, he was the only opposition. Even Tlaib wouldn't vote no.

re: Ro Khanna endorses Thomas Massie

Posted by wdhalgren on 5/19/26 at 1:49 pm to
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you ignored my points about his votes on amnesty and birthright citizenship, among others.


My post was about Border Security. I gave you his score for "Secure Border". It was 27%. You introduced 3 issues that fall into disparate categories. Birthright, for example, falls into the "Support Great Solutions" category. Massies voting record for that category is 33% (D+). His career composite score on immigration is 57%. Not good enough.

re: Ro Khanna endorses Thomas Massie

Posted by wdhalgren on 5/19/26 at 1:29 pm to
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No, you didn’t. You repeated your initial assertion.


You asked if I had "dug into the vote". My answer was yes. And then I asked you to explain to elaborate on your dissenting view. You never answered.

It's a common message board defense. When faced with evidence, you pretend not to notice. The evidence is piling up and you're still saying "Nuh-uh". Do you ever actually back up anything you say on here with verifiable facts? You haven't done it here.

re: Ro Khanna endorses Thomas Massie

Posted by wdhalgren on 5/19/26 at 1:17 pm to
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Cool. You can also read his reasoning for those votes.


I did. A different piddling excuse every single time. And that's not the entire list. When someone stands out like that, repeatedly, over a long period of time, eventually it becomes obvious that the only consistent "principle" is bigotry.

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Nope, and that’s not what I asked. The post is still there, you can read it for yourself.


And I answered. You, on the other hand, have provided zero to back up your rebuttal.

re: Ro Khanna endorses Thomas Massie

Posted by wdhalgren on 5/19/26 at 1:11 pm to
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So the answer to my question was “no”, you couldn’t be bothered to do so.


The answer was yes. You asked and I told you how he voted. Feel free to give me your differing interpretation.

I'll also append another problematic part of his voting record. I posted it above, but it's worth repeating.

Oct 2023 - Voted against condemning Hamas for terrorist slaughter in Israel. Only Republican to side with "The Squad". Final vote 412-10

Nov 2023 - only Republican to vote against the Hamas and Other Palestinian Terrorist Groups International Financing Prevention Act, a bill that would impose sanctions on terrorist organizations.

Nov 2023 - only Republican and one of only 23 House members to vote against a resolution condemning the support of Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorist organizations at institutions of higher education.

Nov 2023 - only member of Congress to vote against a resolution reaffirming the Israel's right to exist. Tlaib voted present. Final vote 411-1.

Nov 2023 - only Republican to vote against the No Funds for Iranian Terrorism Act.





re: Ro Khanna endorses Thomas Massie

Posted by wdhalgren on 5/19/26 at 1:09 pm to
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Like what?


Or how about this one.

Oct 2023 - Voted against condemning Hamas for terrorist slaughter in Israel. Only Republican to side with "The Squad". Final vote 412-10

Nov 2023 - only Republican to vote against the Hamas and Other Palestinian Terrorist Groups International Financing Prevention Act, a bill that would impose sanctions on terrorist organizations.

Nov 2023 - only Republican and one of only 23 House members to vote against a resolution condemning the support of Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorist organizations at institutions of higher education.

Nov 2023 - only member of Congress to vote against a resolution reaffirming the Israel's right to exist.

Nov 2023 - only Republican to vote against the No Funds for Iranian Terrorism Act.



re: Ro Khanna endorses Thomas Massie

Posted by wdhalgren on 5/19/26 at 12:58 pm to
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Did you dig into that number?


He voted against border security. He voted against funding ICE. He voted against internal enforcement. He's weak on border security and enforcement.

re: Ro Khanna endorses Thomas Massie

Posted by wdhalgren on 5/19/26 at 12:41 pm to
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Like what?


How about his failing grade (27%) on US border security by NumbersUSA.