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NYT with a hit piece on Reagan 1980 campaign: accuses it of delaying Iran hostage release

Posted on 3/18/23 at 5:06 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 5:06 pm
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WASHINGTON — It has been more than four decades, but Ben Barnes said he remembers it vividly. His longtime political mentor invited him on a mission to the Middle East. What Mr. Barnes said he did not realize until later was the real purpose of the mission: to sabotage the re-election campaign of the president of the United States.

It was 1980 and Jimmy Carter was in the White House, bedeviled by a hostage crisis in Iran that had paralyzed his presidency and hampered his effort to win a second term. Mr. Carter’s best chance for victory was to free the 52 Americans held captive before Election Day. That was something that Mr. Barnes said his mentor was determined to prevent.

His mentor was John B. Connally Jr., a titan of American politics and former Texas governor who had served three presidents and just lost his own bid for the White House. A former Democrat, Mr. Connally had sought the Republican nomination in 1980 only to be swamped by former Gov. Ronald Reagan of California. Now Mr. Connally resolved to help Mr. Reagan beat Mr. Carter and in the process, Mr. Barnes said, make his own case for becoming secretary of state or defense in a new administration.

What happened next Mr. Barnes has largely kept secret for nearly 43 years. Mr. Connally, he said, took him to one Middle Eastern capital after another that summer, meeting with a host of regional leaders to deliver a blunt message to be passed to Iran: Don’t release the hostages before the election. Mr. Reagan will win and give you a better deal.

Then shortly after returning home, Mr. Barnes said, Mr. Connally reported to William J. Casey, the chairman of Mr. Reagan’s campaign and later director of the Central Intelligence Agency, briefing him about the trip in an airport lounge.

Mr. Connally did not figure in those investigations. His involvement, as described by Mr. Barnes, adds a new understanding to what may have happened in that hard-fought, pivotal election year. With Mr. Carter now 98 and in hospice care, Mr. Barnes said he felt compelled to come forward to correct the record.

“History needs to know that this happened,” Mr. Barnes, who turns 85 next month, said in one of several interviews, his first with a news organization about the episode. “I think it’s so significant and I guess knowing that the end is near for President Carter put it on my mind more and more and more. I just feel like we’ve got to get it down some way.”

Mr. Barnes is no shady foreign arms dealer with questionable credibility, like some of the characters who fueled previous iterations of the October surprise theory. He was once one of the most prominent figures in Texas, the youngest speaker of the Texas House of Representatives and later lieutenant governor. He was such an influential figure that he helped a young George W. Bush get into the Texas Air National Guard rather than be exposed to the draft and sent to Vietnam. Lyndon B. Johnson predicted that Mr. Barnes would become president someday.

Confirming Mr. Barnes’s account is problematic after so much time. Mr. Connally, Mr. Casey and other central figures have long since died and Mr. Barnes has no diaries or memos to corroborate his account. But he has no obvious reason to make up the story and indeed expressed trepidation at going public because of the reaction of fellow Democrats.

Mr. Barnes identified four living people he said he had confided in over the years: Mark K. Updegrove, president of the L.B.J. Foundation; Tom Johnson, a former aide to Lyndon Johnson (no relation) who later became publisher of the Los Angeles Times and president of CNN; Larry Temple, a former aide to Mr. Connally and Lyndon Johnson; and H.W. Brands, a University of Texas historian.

All four of them confirmed in recent days that Mr. Barnes shared the story with them years ago. “As far as I know, Ben never has lied to me,” Tom Johnson said, a sentiment the others echoed. Mr. Brands included three paragraphs about Mr. Barnes’s recollections in a 2015 biography of Mr. Reagan, but the account generated little public notice at the time.

Mr. Barnes said he was certain the point of Mr. Connally’s trip was to get a message to the Iranians to hold the hostages until after the election. “I’ll go to my grave believing that it was the purpose of the trip,” he said. “It wasn’t freelancing because Casey was so interested in hearing as soon as we got back to the United States.” Mr. Casey, he added, wanted to know whether “they were going to hold the hostages.”

None of that establishes whether Mr. Reagan knew about the trip, nor could Mr. Barnes say that Mr. Casey directed Mr. Connally to take the journey. Likewise, he does not know if the message transmitted to multiple Middle Eastern leaders got to the Iranians, much less whether it influenced their decision making. But Iran did hold the hostages until after the election, which Mr. Reagan won, and did not release them until minutes after noon on Jan. 20, 1981, when Mr. Carter left office.

John B. Connally III, the former governor’s eldest son, said in an interview on Friday that he remembered his father taking the Middle East trip but never heard about any message to Iran. While he did not join the trip, the younger Mr. Connally said he accompanied his father to a meeting with Mr. Reagan to discuss it without Mr. Barnes and the conversation centered on the Arab-Israeli conflict and other issues the next president would confront.

“No mention was made in any meeting I was in about any message being sent to the Iranians,” said Mr. Connally. “It doesn’t sound like my dad.” He added: “I can’t challenge Ben’s memory about it, but it’s not consistent with my memory of the trip.”

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This is the perfect strategy: make an alarming accusation against a man who is dead and can’t defend himself
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 5:08 pm to
40 years on, they still hate him.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 5:10 pm to
Carter wasn’t winning regardless.

The Iran hostage crisis was just one of many things Jimmy Carter fricked up
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 5:13 pm to
Well at least this is more plausible than the HW Bush flew over in a SR-71 to delay their release BS story they tried before.

I think this is also a BS claim but at least plausible except it wouldn’t have been kept secret this long.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 5:21 pm to
Maybe they can dig him up, have him arrested and lock him up
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 5:23 pm to
They have been making this accusation for years with no proof.

The problem for them is that the Ayatollah knew Carter was a pussy and wanted to embarrass him. He wasn’t going to take chances with Reagan.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 5:25 pm to
Carter’s policies were shite and the debates sunk him IMHO.

They also tried to claim that Reagan stole the Carter campaign papers. Version I heard was that they DID end up with them but what was in there was so laughably incompetent they didn’t need them and that Reagan used a specific phrase from the papers to verbally flip the bird at Carter.
Posted by mauser
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 5:25 pm to
If I remember correctly, Iran was releasing the hostages as Reagan was being sworn in. They knew he wasn't a pussy like Carter and Reagan was going to clean their fricking clock if they weren't released .
Posted by KAGTASTIC
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 5:45 pm to
TLDR...cliffs on what Reagan's imminent arrest is based on??
Posted by Tarps99
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 5:53 pm to
Could you picture the headline in 2063…former President Trump kept US-Ukrainian hostages at bay so Trump could win back the White House in 2024?
This post was edited on 3/18/23 at 5:56 pm
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:02 pm to
LINK democrats said Bush flew to Paris on a sr71 blackbird to meet with iranians.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95745 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:03 pm to
Think “Afghanistan hostages”, given how many people over there who were Americans got left behind while dumbass was filling planes with anyone they could grab, regardless of them being vetted friendlies or not.
Posted by michael corleone
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 7:12 pm to
So he didn’t hear anything ? He is speculating as to what Connally said. He BELIEVES this is what happened , so now it’s a fact. Where have I heard this before ?
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:21 pm to
They did this 20 years ago. It was crap then and crap now
Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:54 pm to
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This is the perfect strategy: make an alarming accusation against a man who is dead and can’t defend himself


They pulled the same shite accusing Nixon of sabotaging LBJ's Peace talks with the North Vietnamese (after Nixon was dead).
This post was edited on 3/18/23 at 8:55 pm
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17040 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 10:34 pm to
I don't buy it. In April of 1980, Carter tried a secret rescue mission with Delta Force which was called Operation Eagle Claw. The Delta operators were not able to get to the site because several of their choppers had problems. One crashed and killed 8 operators. They ended up aborting the mission.

What reason would the Iranians have in holding off anyway?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
25015 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 10:41 pm to
52 Americans were held hostage 444 days too long.

Jimmah was a weak leader and the entire world saw why.

Sometimes things are exactly what they seem.




Posted by lz2112
Largo, Fl
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:41 am to
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They did this 20 years ago. It was crap then and crap now


And 42 years ago, within days of the hostages arriving home. The timing of their release made it an enticing idea, but in actuality, Reagan was scaring the hell out of everyone, including the Iranians. That's why he was popular.

Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13496 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 7:08 am to
Just compare Jimmy Boy’s record with the Nicaraguan communist, and his North Korea adventures to understand how week the whole world knew him to be.

Iran released the hostages on Jimmy’s last day, because they didn’t know what Ronny would do.

If this was right they should’ve let them out the next day under the better deal Bush the Elder cut after his wild midnight SR71 ride!

The worst tards are libtards with barrels of printer’s ink to spew revisionists bullshite in an effort to mislead another generation.

The ineffectiveness of Jimmy and his “Malaise” followed by the Regal Reagan, is paralleled by Joe-Joe the Senile Sock Puppet being followed by the Don!

Trust me. This is the reoccurring nightmare of all NYT employees and bosses!

It lead to a Republican run that took a Bush to F up! And they cannot trust that there will be a handy Bush around when they need one!
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27552 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 7:24 am to
Wait!!!!! I thought that George HW Bush hitched a ride on a SR71 to fly to an indisclosed location in the ME to do the same thing.....you know the same SR71 that is Air Force and only the best pilots get to fly allowed a civilian to get on a one seat plane and do something like this.

What a crock of shite.
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