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re: Likely next German Chancellor "Europe needs to achieve independence from the USA"
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:11 pm to PsychTiger
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:11 pm to PsychTiger
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If they wouldn’t fight for their home country why would they fight for Europe?
Not only that, your fighters wouldnt be skilled.
I dont think people ever pay attention to nationality when they look at warfare and fighting and they should.
Some cultures/races are just softer than others.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:11 pm to WeeWee
The European Union will break up in our lifetimes. Eastern States are only in it for the money, and with the US influence gone, Brussels and Paris will run wild, imposing all manner of lame and gay bullshite. The East, with the exception of the Baltics, Poland, and Czechia, would rather pull closer to Russia than have waves of Arabs and Africans and trannies forced on them.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:13 pm to PsychTiger
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If they wouldn’t fight for their home country why would they fight for Europe?
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:14 pm to WeeWee
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“It’s clear that the Americans, at least this American administration, are largely indifferent to the fate of Europe.”
Its not 1939 anymore....and we were honestly indifferent then as well....due to the bad taste of the previous conflict.
The CIA is going to need a new boogie man when NATO is dissolved and there are no real threats aside from coronavirus' and terrorism.
The human race is heading towards peace and prosperity.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:15 pm to WeeWee
You’re making the mistake of thinking the benefits of NATO only flow to the European members. That is ridiculous.
NATO has provided troops when askedi in Afghanistan and when Iraq invaded Kuwait. And a stable, secure democratic Europe is very much in America’s strategic interest.
NATO has provided troops when askedi in Afghanistan and when Iraq invaded Kuwait. And a stable, secure democratic Europe is very much in America’s strategic interest.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:15 pm to SallysHuman
We should pull out of NATO and then work with the old eastern block countries who are more conservative and possibly Austria and Italy. Of course they also would have to leave NATO.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:17 pm to WeeWee
Almost like a European first attitude. They can thank Trump for that too
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:20 pm to VOR
Coincidentally, right now I’m watching a rally of thousands of German citizens at the Brandenburg Gate in support of Ukraine.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:22 pm to VOR
Good. Let them send zelensky the money. We are done.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:22 pm to WeeWee
Can’t happen quick enough!
Europe is DONE, Middle East West & won’t be recognized in 5 years, some areas already seem like your in ASSSGAFISTAN
Europe is DONE, Middle East West & won’t be recognized in 5 years, some areas already seem like your in ASSSGAFISTAN
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:25 pm to ItTakesAThief
The board gets sillier by the day.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:34 pm to PsychTiger
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The Europeans could round up their muslim population and send them to fight the Russians. Solves 2 problems for Europe at once.
If they wouldn’t fight for their home country why would they fight for Europe?
I didn't say that they would fight. I said they should be sent to fight. If they choose to not fire back and take some Russian infidels with them then it is still a win for Europe.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:35 pm to Ag Zwin
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Their GDP is almost as much as ours, and it’s telling that it’s not higher.
If you have worked with a European, its not lol
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:35 pm to jizzle6609
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If you have worked with a European, its not lol
That’s why I said “telling” and not “surprising”.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:36 pm to VOR
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The board gets sillier by the day.
Yet you keep posting silly things.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:00 pm to goatmilker
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Pipeline was owned by russia no?
This is one reason Germany wants independence from the US. They want the Nordstream repaired and get that Russian natural gas coming in. It's the cheapest way for their economy.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:47 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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This is one reason Germany wants independence from the US. They want the Nordstream repaired and get that Russian natural gas coming in. It's the cheapest way for their economy.
1. The talking point about Russian gas being cheap was a myth created by and spread by Gerhard Schroder and the other German and European politicians getting bribes from Gazprom.
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The myth that Russian gas supplies were ever significantly more affordable than other sources seems to have its roots in the Cold War era.
West Germany signed an agreement, opens new tab with the Soviet Union in 1970 to acquire natural gas in exchange for delivering steel pipes, an arrangement known, rather uncreatively, as "pipes for gas." It was also called the "the deal of the century,", opens new tab as it helped lower German energy prices. Italy, opens new tab and France, opens new tab reached similar deals in the 1980s.
But even during the Soviet era, the value of the gas exports into Europe was not based on an artificially low price but was instead linked to Dutch prices, Jonathan Stern wrote in his book The Pricing of International Traded Gas, opens new tab.
After the Soviet Union's collapse, Russia's newly-formed gas giant Gazprom and European buyers shifted to modern supply contracts using standard pricing mechanisms based on European gas prices as well as Brent crude oil prices. In the following decades, Russian gas actually priced above the European spot market at times due to growing overseas competition and the rise of renewable energy.
2. The biggest factor causing the German energy crisis of the last few years has not been the costs of switching from Russian gas to gas from Norway, America, the Middle East, and Australia but the loss of electricity generated by nuclear and coal. Germany's next chancellor wants to build 50 new gas power plants but that could take up to 7 years per plant. The cheapest and easiest way to help out the German economy is to lower electricity prices by restarting its shuttered nuclear and coal plants. Now that the Greens are not likely to be in the next government Germany may have a chance.
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:52 pm to Faurot fodder
That’s because the only outcome that could have saved Germany was the AfD. The “conservatives” who won are a bunch of RINO types
Europe is a lost cause, too many Muslims
Europe is a lost cause, too many Muslims
Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:03 pm to WeeWee
quote:Sure as hell do. At least to the point where we can't afford to keep shoring them up with our monopoly money.
"Europe needs to achieve independence from the USA"
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