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re: Likely next German Chancellor "Europe needs to achieve independence from the USA"

Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20102 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:11 pm to
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If they wouldn’t fight for their home country why would they fight for Europe?


Not only that, your fighters wouldnt be skilled.

I dont think people ever pay attention to nationality when they look at warfare and fighting and they should.

Some cultures/races are just softer than others.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10311 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:11 pm to
The European Union will break up in our lifetimes. Eastern States are only in it for the money, and with the US influence gone, Brussels and Paris will run wild, imposing all manner of lame and gay bullshite. The East, with the exception of the Baltics, Poland, and Czechia, would rather pull closer to Russia than have waves of Arabs and Africans and trannies forced on them.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21764 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:13 pm to
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If they wouldn’t fight for their home country why would they fight for Europe?

Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11757 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:14 pm to
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“It’s clear that the Americans, at least this American administration, are largely indifferent to the fate of Europe.”


Its not 1939 anymore....and we were honestly indifferent then as well....due to the bad taste of the previous conflict.

The CIA is going to need a new boogie man when NATO is dissolved and there are no real threats aside from coronavirus' and terrorism.

The human race is heading towards peace and prosperity.

Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68825 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:15 pm to
You’re making the mistake of thinking the benefits of NATO only flow to the European members. That is ridiculous.
NATO has provided troops when askedi in Afghanistan and when Iraq invaded Kuwait. And a stable, secure democratic Europe is very much in America’s strategic interest.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10754 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:15 pm to
We should pull out of NATO and then work with the old eastern block countries who are more conservative and possibly Austria and Italy. Of course they also would have to leave NATO.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19326 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:17 pm to
Almost like a European first attitude. They can thank Trump for that too
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68825 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:20 pm to
Coincidentally, right now I’m watching a rally of thousands of German citizens at the Brandenburg Gate in support of Ukraine.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59469 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:22 pm to
Good. Let them send zelensky the money. We are done.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:22 pm to
Can’t happen quick enough!

Europe is DONE, Middle East West & won’t be recognized in 5 years, some areas already seem like your in ASSSGAFISTAN
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68825 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:25 pm to
The board gets sillier by the day.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45567 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:34 pm to
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The Europeans could round up their muslim population and send them to fight the Russians. Solves 2 problems for Europe at once.


If they wouldn’t fight for their home country why would they fight for Europe?


I didn't say that they would fight. I said they should be sent to fight. If they choose to not fire back and take some Russian infidels with them then it is still a win for Europe.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20102 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:35 pm to
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Their GDP is almost as much as ours, and it’s telling that it’s not higher.



If you have worked with a European, its not lol
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26295 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:35 pm to
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If you have worked with a European, its not lol

That’s why I said “telling” and not “surprising”.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109283 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:36 pm to
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The board gets sillier by the day.


Yet you keep posting silly things.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24012 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:00 pm to
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Pipeline was owned by russia no?


This is one reason Germany wants independence from the US. They want the Nordstream repaired and get that Russian natural gas coming in. It's the cheapest way for their economy.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45567 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:47 pm to
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This is one reason Germany wants independence from the US. They want the Nordstream repaired and get that Russian natural gas coming in. It's the cheapest way for their economy.


1. The talking point about Russian gas being cheap was a myth created by and spread by Gerhard Schroder and the other German and European politicians getting bribes from Gazprom.

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The myth that Russian gas supplies were ever significantly more affordable than other sources seems to have its roots in the Cold War era.
West Germany signed an agreement, opens new tab with the Soviet Union in 1970 to acquire natural gas in exchange for delivering steel pipes, an arrangement known, rather uncreatively, as "pipes for gas." It was also called the "the deal of the century,", opens new tab as it helped lower German energy prices. Italy, opens new tab and France, opens new tab reached similar deals in the 1980s.

But even during the Soviet era, the value of the gas exports into Europe was not based on an artificially low price but was instead linked to Dutch prices, Jonathan Stern wrote in his book The Pricing of International Traded Gas, opens new tab.

After the Soviet Union's collapse, Russia's newly-formed gas giant Gazprom and European buyers shifted to modern supply contracts using standard pricing mechanisms based on European gas prices as well as Brent crude oil prices. In the following decades, Russian gas actually priced above the European spot market at times due to growing overseas competition and the rise of renewable energy.
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2. The biggest factor causing the German energy crisis of the last few years has not been the costs of switching from Russian gas to gas from Norway, America, the Middle East, and Australia but the loss of electricity generated by nuclear and coal. Germany's next chancellor wants to build 50 new gas power plants but that could take up to 7 years per plant. The cheapest and easiest way to help out the German economy is to lower electricity prices by restarting its shuttered nuclear and coal plants. Now that the Greens are not likely to be in the next government Germany may have a chance.
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 1:50 pm
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
6269 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:52 pm to
That’s because the only outcome that could have saved Germany was the AfD. The “conservatives” who won are a bunch of RINO types

Europe is a lost cause, too many Muslims
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
14115 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:53 pm to
viel Gluck!
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20704 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:03 pm to
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"Europe needs to achieve independence from the USA"
Sure as hell do. At least to the point where we can't afford to keep shoring them up with our monopoly money.
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