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re: Let me get this straight, the main reason we are doing this is to bring more jobs to US?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:29 am to Midget Death Squad
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:29 am to Midget Death Squad
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Trump isn't talking about bringing in "more jobs" to the US; he's specifically been speaking at "manufacturing jobs." This resolves two problems: it fixes our manufacturing issue
What manufacturing issue?
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as well as creates real jobs for people that are not government ones.
There are currently more than 460k open manufacturing jobs.
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:30 am to GumboPot
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. We do that by making stuff.
We have the best manufacturing industry in the world.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:30 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Ok. What's your point? You're against the tariffs, but I'm 100% for them.
There are 460k+ open slots TODAY they can apply for.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:30 am to GumboPot
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I don't even know if this current disruption is all about creating more jobs at home.
Well that's one of like 5 mutually exclusive options
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:30 am to geauxcoco
Yes - let's import the .50 cents a day slave salary to the USA. Sure, millions will be lining up for the opportunities.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:31 am to RollTide4547
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Ok. What's your point? Y
The problem claimed doesn't exist.
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You're against the tariffs, but I'm 100% for them
But your inability to articulate why, effectively, is the discussion.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:31 am to geauxcoco
And you feel the same about all of the exposed gov't. wasteful spending, billions in open border costs, big gov't waste, and SS fraud right? That's what you are projecting, that you disagree with the loss of money to Americans by whatever means..........................same with the last admin and all of their trillions of waste and abuse, you hated that too right? It hurt Americans right?
Now we'll all wait on your logic........................
Now we'll all wait on your logic........................
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:32 am to geauxcoco
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Well, explain it to me then? Do you really understand? Give me a good answer here. Willing to have a very honest discussion about this. All of you guys here today want to quit your Cush job today and go work in a factory?
There are high paying manufacturing jobs, particularly in high tech related manufacturing. We are not talking about sewing shirts or cutting plastic pieces. This high-end manufacturing is where Chinna has seen the most growth recently. These are the production facilities, jobs, and sectors that can help strengthen the middle class. No reason we should be importing as much as we are in these sectors.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:32 am to geauxcoco
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Why do we need more jobs when we have the lowest unemployment rate in the world and just had an absolute stellar jobs report?
A). No matter what the jobs' reports say, there's always some degree of disingenuity. Trump team does tend, however, to be more honest than the other guys. That said, the numbers never include the problematic group, which are those who are of able body and mind that have just removed themselves from the workforce, which leads me to
B). There are still plenty of people out there who have just given up on trying to remain in the workforce and have carved out a niche in taking advantage of federal welfare programs. When we create many more jobs, it creates a more competitive workforce and job market, higher wages. Couple that with drastically cutting entitlement programs and doing things like limiting the scope of what a SNAP card can purchase, and I think you can probably see where I'm going with that.
We are the United States of America. We have the largest economy in the world. We have the most diverse range of production, manufacturing, processing and many other fields on this earth. It's not our responsibility to deliberately remove ourselves from certain markets where we could be producing goods and services just because it lets another nation do that instead and then imports from them to keep that country afloat and still get the goods and services stateside. If anything, recent trends should prove that we should be headed in the diametrically opposite direction, with all these foreign nations throwing a hissy fit and making threats to cut off supply to the US of goods that we don't produce independently.
Outside of a few nations like Argentina and Japan, I don't know what countries would actually make fervent attempts to renegotiate with the US for more amicable trade agreements. Things like solar panels should be made in-house here in the US, where the rare earth minerals used in their production are mined and extracted far more responsibly than they are in Asian countries. I'm by no means a "green warrior" or some shite, but I do acknowledge that there's a way to do things in a responsible manner to mitigate potential environmental damage. The biggest producers of lithium for example, are the biggest polluters on earth. Why should we continue to allow that just for cheaper goods? Seems counterintuitive.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:32 am to geauxcoco
US is on pace to become a vassal state of the PRC in about 25 years but beyond that, labor participation rates are abysmal.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:32 am to RollTide4547
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Not sure about where you live, but they seem to be self deporting from my area. They may just be leaving my red state and not the country, but there definitely fewer at my local walmart. Under biden, native english speakers would be the minority (by a long shot) whenever my wife and I went. Now, there might be 3 or 4 in the entire store.
I live on the Northshore of Lake Pontchartrain. Red as the current stock market and MAGA as a motherfricker.
I go to a nearby Latin Market to get my tortillas. They've got the best selection. Well business is booming in that store and everyone of them is brown and non-english speaking.
I'm typically the only gringo there. I can promise you, those frickers aren't nervous about jackshit and if ICE wanted a payday, all they'd have to do is walk in.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 10:00 am
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:33 am to NashvilleTider
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This isn’t about jobs, it’s about not relying on China for everything we need. Most of these factories will be run by robots. That’s clearly stated every time the Trump administration talks about this
Seems like some around here are okay with the American worker staying on her knees with a mouthful of CCP johnson, even if it puts us in a really bad spot if say another covid type event happened, all so the artificially inflated stock market can stay green.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:34 am to JiminyCricket
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Seems like some around here are okay with the American worker staying on her knees with a mouthful of CCP johnson, even if it puts us in a really bad spot if say another covid type event happened, all so the artificially inflated stock market can stay green.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:35 am to GumboPot
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The U.S. needs more people working PRODUCTIVELY and less people taking from the federal government.
Fixed. We can pay people to dig holes and fill them back in. They're employed but they're not productive.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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We have the best manufacturing industry in the world.
My dad lives in St. Charles Parish and I remember the controversy of Valero and a couple of other refineries moving to to the parish and they were incentivized with no local taxes for 10 years. There was a lot of bitching and moaning at the time. But in the end these refineries got their 10 year local tax reprieve. The tax reprieve expired decades ago and now St. Charles Parish is swimming in cash because they enticed industry into the parish that makes stuff.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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What manufacturing issue?
oh you
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:37 am to geauxcoco
Geez.... Trump, Bessent, and Lutnick have explained Trump's plan many many many times.
It's not hard to understand and has been discussed and explained ad nauseum! If you don't understand it, you never will.
It's not hard to understand and has been discussed and explained ad nauseum! If you don't understand it, you never will.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:37 am to Midget Death Squad
I'm trying to have him (and likely you) define the issue.
I imagine it's going to be a vague mass of generalities with one or 2 specific examples and no limits.
I imagine it's going to be a vague mass of generalities with one or 2 specific examples and no limits.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:37 am to Flats
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Fixed. We can pay people to dig holes and fill them back in. They're employed but they're not productive.
Fair point.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:37 am to TigerDoc
People will stand in front of a blast furnace for the same pay that UPS drivers get. Not for $15 an hour.
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