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re: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial - Day 7

Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143711 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:07 pm to
The memes from today are going to be great.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
38285 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:08 pm to
This diverse female CNN panel picking apart Kyle using vocabulary not normally associated with an 18 year old kid

Frick these counts .

Yeah he’s rehearsed and game planned , he’s in trial for his life .
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39180 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:08 pm to
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I had the opposite thought. Hollow points are commonly called "self defense rounds". So if you're going there to defend yourself, why didn't use self defense rounds?

Because it really doesn't matter. Just something for (us) gun enthusiasts and idiotic District Attorneys to argue over.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177195 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:08 pm to
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kyle chose FMJ because that is what was in the box


Kyle's composure makes you forget he was 17 when this happened. He was a kid who put whatever they had in the gun because it would shoot coke cans.
Posted by WizardSleeve
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2011
1965 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:08 pm to
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It seems that the prosecutor is trying to say that Ritt was putting more people in danger b/c FMJ is more likely to pass through the target.


This was my takeaway before the judge called a stop. It shows how ignorant the prosecution is to firearms. Back at the time of the event, most people with ARs didnt have much choice in ammo with supply being so low. Kyle probably didnt even have a choice. FMJ was likely what they had and that was all there was to it.
Posted by southern686
Narnia
Member since Nov 2015
1064 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:09 pm to
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Wish KR had loaded with hollow points just for that reason.


Ehhh I disagree here. Then they would just argue it was pre-meditated and that he was going there with the intention of killing someone.

This is basic court/law shite. They will try to twist facts in what ever way to get a guilty verdict. Got to remember they are not worried about "the truth" they are worried about "their truth". They just want that conviction %.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:10 pm to
So if this trial is a farce and the judge knows it's a farce, why doesn't he dismiss it? Like right now.
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
2519 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:10 pm to
good thing he didnt have XM855 loaded, or the prosecution would have sworn he was going to shoot holes thru the armored vehicles....pearls {Clutched} Not Clutched
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
24200 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:10 pm to
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5.56/2.23 is designed to tumble


No it’s not. If you have a gun that keyholes it’s round your gun is fricked up. A tumbling round couldn’t hit shite with any accuracy past 25 yards.

The tumbling myth started during the early days of the M16. Tge barrel twist rates were 1:14. This did cause stabilization issues but was corrected with fast twist rates.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 12:17 pm
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49489 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:10 pm to
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For specifically inflicting damage a hollow point would be the cartridge of choice.

But the fact is 99% of recreational shooters just shoot whatever without any intent either way based on bullet type.


All absolutely true - my comments are all directed at how the prosecutor can use the issue.

Personally - I carry hollow point for self-defense purposes = but I don't target practice with them.

The FMJs were in the gun because they are much cheaper.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93153 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:10 pm to
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This was my takeaway before the judge called a stop. It shows how ignorant the prosecution is to firearms. Back at the time of the event, most people with ARs didnt have much choice in ammo with supply being so low. Kyle probably didnt even have a choice. FMJ was likely what they had and that was all there was to it.
i'd argue those 8 rounds kyle fired were worth more than the people he shot.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177195 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:11 pm to
It's strange to see the court TV anchors kind of on Kyle's side and talking about how retarded Binger is. I guess because race isn't involved here.
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6749 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:11 pm to
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So if this trial is a farce and the judge knows it's a farce, why doesn't he dismiss it? Like right now.


im guessing the judge will not send to the jury and find him not guilty…..if he has that ability.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45871 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:11 pm to
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No it’s not.


It's meant to tumble when it hits flesh. Which is probably what OP meant.

Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
4254 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:11 pm to
The prosecution is going to lose that jury getting all hung-up on full metal jackets and hollow points and what they do to deer. That was stupid if I was on the jury
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:12 pm to
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and y'all were worried about the prosecution's cross of Kyle


I greatly underestimated the prosecution’s total incompetence
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
4915 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:13 pm to
Right - try buying anything other than FMJ over the last couple years.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36546 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:13 pm to
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It's meant to tumble when it hits flesh. Which is probably what OP meant.

This
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9402 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:13 pm to
I think the Prosecutor knows he's going to lose on the murder charges and is hammering the illegal possession of a firearm to get something
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15047 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:13 pm to
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No it’s not. If you have a gun that keyholes it’s round your gun is fricked up. A tumbling round couldn’t hit shite with any accuracy past 25 yards.

Yep. The correct term is "yaw". The Russian 5.45 round is particularly known for this.
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