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re: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial - Day 7
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:14 pm to armsdealer
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:14 pm to armsdealer
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5.56/2.23 is designed to tumble and NOT penetrate past the first target.
The projectiles fired from those cartridges perform the same as any other rifle cartridges; there’s no magic tumbling effect to explain lethality or penetration. They are small, light projectiles going extremely fast.
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
did kyle load the gun or did dominic? I missed that part
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:15 pm to Chief One Word
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Ehhh I disagree here. Then they would just argue it was pre-meditated and that he was going there with the intention of killing someone.
This is basic court/law shite. They will try to twist facts in what ever way to get a guilty verdict. Got to remember they are not worried about "the truth" they are worried about "their truth". They just want that conviction %.
The rounds don't matter .....BECAUSE KYLE DID NOT LOAD THE RIFLE!
This is a poor excuse for a Prosecutor .... Ask those questions before you get him on the stand.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:15 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:I am tending to my mom's health matters today and just came into this thread. I can't wait to see this rerun.
Judge just went Nuclear
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:16 pm to ChineseBandit58
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hmmm - who loaded the magazine after the last shooting practice?? and who racked the bullet into the chamber??
Yep, I cringed when Kyle told that.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:17 pm to Chief One Word
quote:I'll say it again, if there is one hunter on that jury, the prosecutor is making a huge mistake. This being Wisconsin, it's very likely there is one.
The prosecution is going to lose that jury getting all hung-up on full metal jackets and hollow points and what they do to deer. That was stupid if I was on the jury
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:17 pm to southern686
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Then they would just argue it was pre-meditated and that he was going there with the intention of killing someone.
Yeah - all true - the prosecution is going to make some nonsensical argument either way -
it is just more in line with 'being armed for self defense' to have actual ammo specifically designed for self defense loaded.
No problem with the kid'd decision to have the FMJs in the real world - that's what I'd have done under similar circumstance = use what you have.
If possible, I'd try to have the HPs - but that's just my personal opinion - not based on being tried for murder afterward.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:17 pm to greygoose
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I'll say it again, if there is one hunter on that jury, the prosecutor is making a huge mistake.
Hell, anyone with a basic understanding of firearms and ballistics.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:18 pm to Themole
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cringed when Kyle told that.
yep - me too - the only weak spot I have seen so far that has any legitimacy at a ll.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:18 pm to LSUGrrrl
Crap. This kid hs me sobbing.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:20 pm to armsdealer
again.... liberals know jack frick about firearms
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:20 pm to LSUGrrrl
I don't even know if there will be protests once he's acquitted at this point. May set up outside the ADA'S office.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:21 pm to ChineseBandit58
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the prosecution is going to make some nonsensical argument either way -
100% I agree. Whether FMJ or HP they will twist it.
FMJ- Muh mass shooter can pass thru multiple people or thru masonary/cars.
HP- Muh pre meditated, intended to kill someone going there.
This is why I also do not believe KR is this ignorant on the subject. He was coached by his legal team to play stupid so the prosecution couldn't twist it into a "gotcha".
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:21 pm to supatigah
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did kyle load the gun or did dominic?
Testified the gun was already loaded when he picked it up = bad enough.
but to not know if a round was chambered or not is a bad thing.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:21 pm to Themole
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Yep, I cringed when Kyle told that.
Trying to show him as irresponsible. It does as a gun person.
In another way..it shows he didn’t go out and prep to kill.
Should have just said he didn’t remember.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:21 pm to BuckyCheese
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:22 pm to greygoose
quote:
I'll say it again, if there is one hunter on that jury, the prosecutor is making a huge mistake. This being Wisconsin, it's very likely there is one.
Kenosha went to Trump in 2016 (Biden in 2020... how?)... so there has to be at least 1 baw/bawette on the jury
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:22 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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don't even know if there will be protests once he's acquitted at this point. May set up outside the ADA'S office.
There won’t. It’s mid November in Wisconsin.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:22 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:It was glorious.
I can't wait to see this rerun.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:22 pm to ChineseBandit58
quote:
which is what you'd actually want for self defense.
Having FMJ is a bad thing for defense.
pretty marginal - but the only bright spot I can see for the prosecution.
Not really ammo is in shite supply now very much so then. You don’t find soft points or hollow points on the shelf much during the best of times much less mean times. Police don’t use hollow points neither does the military so that is a dumb take.
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