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The craziest thing about the imported shrimp issue is that the main reason farmed shrimp is so cheap is because it is fed free fish meal feedstock. The most expensive input into farming any aquaculture, fish or shrimp, is fish meal feed. The price of fish meal is a global market price, like any commodity and in Louisiana, where most of the fish meal comes from in North America, we let it go for free. We allow two foreign companies to harvest over a billion lbs of pogy (menhaden) from Lousiana every year, with no limit, and do not charge them a cent to do so. Its one of the most valuable natural resources that we have as a state and we let it go for free, all they have to do is contribute a bunch of money to every governor.

The company that owns the largest shrimp farms in Central America (Cooke Aquaculture) also wholly owns Omega, the largest menhaden harvester here.

So in summary - Louisiana policy on free, unlimited menhaden is allowing super cheap farmed shrimp to kill our own domestic wild-caught shrimp industry. And our shrimpers defend the menhaden industry! The whole thing is insane.
Lots of smoke here. Why is this not being thoroughly investigated? What victims need obgyn treatment? Why won’t DOJ address this specifically this is horrible stuff and deserves to be specifically called fact or give the world the correct context if it’s not.
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Many on the state board prefer a kinder-gentler approach


Thus frustrated me but after being involved a lot recently and talking to cca leadership and others (trcp) the cca has been reluctant to go scorched earth on the menhaden issue because it will risk ability to get cooperation on other things, like artificial reefs for example.

But this year things changed. The public is more educated and there is more desire in cca leadership to come out swinging now and press the menhaden issue. At least in my opinion.
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CHEDBALLZ


EXCELLENT content and delivery.

Nailed the big points well. :cheers:

Also call your state rep and senator and give them this perspective too. Tell them we need their focus on this issue at the Capitol.
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That was pretty weak


There’s a line and he crossed it. Zero tolerance. frick the limp enforcement of law, thats how our cities have turned into dumps and the country has been overrun by 3rd world degenerates.
That’s amazing if true. Like an episode of Stranger Things.

Honestly though none of us should be completely shocked to find that the US actually has some kind of secret technology for use in situations like this. I think about what the people like us in 1945 would have thought if we heard the US was developing a nuclear bomb that could incinerate a city in one blast. Would have sounded far fetched.


Honestly higher % of AA than I would have thought.
All true. But on average higher IQ people self-govern more effectively. Low IQ people make poor decisions with short sighted reasoning. On average the people that abandon the shopping cart are lower IQ because impulse control tracks proportionately with IQ.

We will abort our civilization both by continuing to import low IQ people from their own failed civilizations and incentivizing the population growth of low IQ populations currently here.

What we have is a high trust society. And it only works if it is filled with individuals that act in good faith because they are intelligent enough to see the long term consequences of their actions. Low IQ people fulfill their immediate impulses, like stealing, and are necessarily also low trust people. .
Psychosis and suicide attempt following a single use of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabiphorol: A case report

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patient who was brought into the emergency department with a self-inflicted stab wound to the chest after consuming 8 mg of ?9-THCP. The patient was a regular user of standard tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) products from dispensaries and had no history of psychotic symptoms. The patient consumed the 8 mg just over 2 days prior to admission and noted psychotic symptoms for 48 h. The symptoms included depersonalization and a belief that he was already dead.


I have consumed a few of the D9 seltzers and think they are amazing if taken in moderation. Def strong effects when you have no tolerance, so dont need much to feel buzzed, and love the no hangover. However legitimately documented cases of psychosis are the main fuel behind the pro ban crowd. Alcohol or flower lobby are using these examples as a weapon to push the ban. Unless they can be refuted, the federal ban will stick. No one in government wants to be involved in legalizing D9 THC products if they believe it can cause someone to stab themselves in the chest. This is a legit medical journal documenting this case. How would the pro D9 THC crowd argue this?

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Who made this decision? Politicians? WLF? A commission? Someone needs to be accountable to answer the question as to “why”?


The decision is made by the Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission. It is a board of 7 appointed commissioners.


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If it’s the commission, then who appointed them? Are they getting paid or is the politician that appointed them getting paid?


They are all appointed by a governor. Some were appointed by JBE and some by Jeff Landry. The current makeup of the LWF Commission is 4-3 in favor of commercial interests, due to the appointees from Landry.

Landry’s campaign benefited from hundreds of thousands of dollars in contributions from the menhaden industry. There might be some other under-the-table benefits going on, but there was a ton of money publicly contributed by these menhaden companies and owners to Jeff Landry and they are now getting the benefits of cherry picked commissioners friendly to them.


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That’s where my breakdown in understanding is. If the people of Louisiana (the sportsman at least) are so against this, and have gobs of evidence against it, then why would the boundary get changed? Who can answer that question for the people?


An excellent question. The 3 commissioners friendly to conservation and recreational interests voted against the buffer change. The 4 who voted in favor of decreasing the buffer are all aligned with commercial interests. Two own alligator farms. One owned a shrimp dock. Jimmy Martin was a commercial fisherman and was appointed by Landry early this year. Chairman Sagrera was also appointed by Landry this year and is one of the alligator farmers. This changed the commission to be favorable to the menhaden reduction industry.

I was in the Nov 6 hearing and it was very heated and obvious how each of them would vote. The 4 commercial friendly guys were confrontational to the commenters who were against the pogy boats. Jimmy Martin, in an bizarre off topic question, asked the owner of Puglia’s sporting goods if he sold barbless hooks, because if he didnt sell barbless hooks he was somehow doing more harm to the ecosystem than the pogy boats. It was the most wildly ignorant statement and I was embarrassed as a Louisiana resident that these guys are making such important decisions. One of the commissioners who owns alligator farms was on his phone the entire time, not really listening to the people who got up to speak and comment. The guy who owned the shrimp dock was the deciding vote and he voted with the pogy boats because the shrimp industry is aligned with the pogy boats. They kill a lot of bycatch also and view any threat to the pogy reduction industry as a future threat to them.

There is definitely a strange alliance and solidarity between the pogy reduction industry and all other commercial fishing and shrimping mom and pop businesses. It’s ironic because there would be more fish available for our commercial fishermen if it weren’t for the pogy boats and the real kicker is the reduction product fish meal and oil is almost exclusively used in aquaculture overseas, including shrimp and salmon that are sold back into our market to compete against our own domestic commercial shrimpers and fishermen. Omega themselves own one of the largest shrimp farms in Central America. They harvest our pogies to feed their farms.

One speaker got to the podium and brought up that the 2 commissioners owning alligator farms would be an obvious conflict of interest since the main cost in farming alligators is the feed… made from menhaden. So the cost of their feed would go up if the harvest of menhaden was reduced. It’s highly unethical and an ethics complaint has been filed, to my knowledge.



TLDR: Jeff Landry was elected from pogy industry money - he appointed commissioners friendly to the industry - they vote in their best interests, not in the interests of the people of Louisiana.


I will add that the menhaden people and their lobbyists are very friendly with Jeff Landry and this kind of stuff only happens with the governor on board. 100% he was aware of this buffer change. Many people reached out to him to try to stop it, telling him it would be a political issue for him later, but he ignored and essentially responded that these menhaden companies would lose jobs if we didn’t accommodate them. Or at least thats what Ive heard from more than one person who has spoken to him about it.

If you dont like what’s happening with the pogy boats, it’s ultimately all on Jeff Landry.
After many years of trying lots of lines I’ve settled on simple Power Pro Spectra 20lb, it casts so far. Just awesome line. Dont need 30 lbs unless you’re regularly horsing bull reds or something like that. I use 25 or 30 lb Seaguar or Ande Fluoro, whichever is handy. For tight-line to jig head I tie braid to mono with a modified Alberto knot. Works great for the skinny 20lb braid to thicker Fluoro connection.
Hell yeah 7 is perfect for hopedale. Much of hopedale to Delacroix can be fished in fall and winter without any open water runs, all interior marsh safe and low intensity boat rides for kids. Find drains and points or pockets with tide falling and good clean water, put a shrimp under a cork up near the cut or bank and hold on!
Can’t win like we want to win without dominant O and D lines. Investment needs to be here. Can get by with serviceable WR and RB if you have the best O line in the division. Watching back the highlights of Shough this weekend all of his key good passes resulted from great protection and a decent pocket. Panthers rushed 4 and we blocked them giving a clean pocket to step up and throw. It’s really simple.
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supposed to limit it to 1 miles and then the new gov got elected
Yep thats what that $780k of known public contributions bought. Likely a lot more in unknown contributions like invites to Francois Kuttel's yacht in the Mediterranean or $15 million vacation house in Aspen. They bought a governor friendly to the industry.

Here's a YouTube of the show from this morning if you missed it.

YouTube Don Dubuc WWL 870 Menhaden Segement
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Don also asked Ben why Louisiana should be different than the rest of the gulf states that have either banned or heavily regulated the lovey industry. Ben’s direct answer was “our coast are different than theirs. That’s why.” No follow up or further elaboration.


Yeah he called Louisiana “a working coast” trying to imply that somehow we should tolerate factory ships harvesting everything they can simply because we dont have white sand beaches and condos the whole length of our coastline.
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I was really impressed by Don. He had clearly read up on everything and was ready to go.


Agreed. He did a great job. Came across as very reasonable too.
Normally I think Ben Landry does a good job arguing in favor of the industry, but usually he isnt talking to someone who knows the subject as well as Don Dubuc did during this interview.

The stuff about campaign contributions was not a good look for the pogy boats. Ben said “it isnt as much as you think it is” and then Don brought up the actual donations of $780k right after that. Made him and the industry look kind of dishonest. They made the contributions, they should own them and explain why they contribute heavily to politicians. He instead said “recreational anglers probably give way more to politicians” or something like that, which I dont think anyone believes. CCA isnt allowed to make political contributions as a non-profit.
Don's show comes out as a podcast every week, I listen to it sometimes on apple podcasts. If I see it when it comes out I'll post here.
Just a heads up for anyone in their cars or listening to the radio at work, tune in to 870 AM today to listen to Don Dubuc interview a few folks to dig into the menhaden (pogy boats) issues. Segment starts at 8 AM.

Listen to Ben Landry spin propaganda for the international companies raping our resource at 8am

Rep Orgeron will get on at 845

Chris Macaluso with TRCP and Rad Trascher from CCA will be on at 910.
I put some Toyo Open Country AT3 load range C on a Jeep Unlimited and they are the nicest riding all terrain tires Ive had. I think the load range options are important. Not all brands have the ideal load range for your vehicle. People put higher-ply load range E tires on Jeeps, for example, because they like the tread or styling of a certain tire and it rides like shite. Like tying bricks to the wheels.

What vehicle are you putting tires on?
75% and there were drops too! Could have been over 80%