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re: Judge orders Dept. of Education employees to be reinstated

Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:53 am to
Posted by George Dickel
Member since Jun 2019
2172 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:53 am to
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Move what's left of the Dept of Ed to Minot, ND.


Great idea! Do it!
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8227 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:55 am to
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So you don’t know the DOE is under the Executive branch


You make it sound like these judges care about things like that.... Congress created it to serve for the Executive branch....

Unelected activist judges can declare who and what positions can and can't be eliminated.

Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
20815 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:00 am to
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Wrong…


I'll give you a 10 for brevity and a 0 for accuracy.
Posted by duckblind56
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:04 am to
Posted by Lugnut
Wesson
Member since Nov 2016
1509 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:33 am to
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I'm legitimately curious if these judges are able to do this because the departments are carrying out functions EXPLICITLY laid out and funded by congress


We finally have a winner! Congrats on getting it!
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
23945 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:40 am to
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Bring them back and reassign as janitors.


Transfer them all to our new Kyiv branch.
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
2625 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:42 am to
Still waiting on SCOTUS to once and for all address this unsurpation.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:43 am to
a simple frick you to the liberal judge will do just fine.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9968 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:48 am to
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“The Department must be able to carry out its functions and its obligations,” as well as “other relevant statutes as mandated by Congress,” U.S. District Judge Myong Joun in Boston wrote in the injunction.


Think about this being run to its natural conclusion. It isn't matter whether you're left or right- this is a completely insane decision. Essentially, you're saying the court system gets to determine how many employees should be assigned to each agency. So can the President- any President- not reduce any agency by any number of employees now? Who gets to be the arbiter of what each agency needs to "carry out its functions and its obligations"?

Think about it for me financial standpoint as well. What if Congress or the president strips 50%, 30% or even 10% of an agency's budget. That act would thus reduce an agencies ability to "carry out its functions and its obligations" and thus now be unconstitutional. Is this really what we want to do here?
Posted by atlgamecockman
Nola
Member since Dec 2012
4308 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:21 pm to
I think the framing of this argument is wrong.

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Essentially, you're saying the court system gets to determine how many employees should be assigned to each agency.


The court here is fundamentally settling a dispute between the Executive and Congress, which is one of the purposes of the judiciary.

Congress has set the funding and staffing requirements for the DoEd, the executive has not executed the plan as it's supposed to.

Judge is just calling balls and strikes on the facts of the case/dispute between Congress and Executive Branch.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62840 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:21 pm to
A judge cannot tell a president how to staff a department within the Executive Branch.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468043 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:22 pm to
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Essentially, you're saying the court system gets to determine how many employees should be assigned to each agency.

No. The argument is if Congress gets to determine that via statute.

The courts are deciding between a conflict of Congress and the Executive.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:22 pm to
Transfer them all to new regional offices spread out across Iowa, Utah, Idaho...
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17645 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:23 pm to
Judge panhead from Boston. One of the biggest shite holes in this country. How about go frick yourself.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Nola
Member since Dec 2012
4308 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:23 pm to
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A judge cannot tell a president how to staff a department within the Executive Branch.



Yeah what you're missing is the fact that the judge not doing that. Congress does that. This judge is ruling based on the facts of the case that the Executive isn't doing what Congress told it to.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59603 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:28 pm to
In other news, Article III District Judge orders God to withhold the second coming until the Judicial Branch allows it.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12674 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:33 pm to
SlowFlowProofreader…
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17645 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:34 pm to
Hey numbnuts, aren't you tired of being wrong about everything?


The Department of Education reports to the President of the United States. The Secretary of Education, who heads the department, serves as the principal advisor to the president on education policies and programs.

Google it, you find if you actually read, you can educate yourself.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
54049 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:40 pm to
The Trump administration has determined the DOE needs to reduce the number of employees of the organization as they work towards eliminating the DOE and the judge says you can't do it.


Yeah, frick that^^^^ BS!
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
12299 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:43 pm to
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Judge Myong Joun


"You gotta go back!"
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