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re: Judge Merchan upholds Trump's 34 felony convictions despite pres.immunity ruling from SCOT
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:42 am to RFK
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:42 am to RFK
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This was a private payment that doesn’t concern the U.S.
If it was a private payment that had nothing to do with his capacity as POTUS, then the whole case goes away.
This is the judge trying to have it both ways.
As I understand it, anyway.
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:54 am to Haystack
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At this point can't Trump just pardon himself? ??
No, it's a state charge. The president can't pardon state convicts.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:55 am to Tomatocantender
“but his daughter will be fair game for Trump's DOJ starting 1/20.”
Please explain what you are talking about?
Please explain what you are talking about?
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 8:56 am
Posted on 12/17/24 at 9:39 am to TigerIron
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At this point can't Trump just pardon himself? ??
No, it's a state charge. The president can't pardon state convicts.
This is my understanding but I wonder if that changes given the charges are under federal law. You shouldn't be able to dip into federal territory unless you take all of it.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 9:40 am to Thecoz
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quote:
“but his daughter will be fair game for Trump's DOJ starting 1/20.”
Please explain what you are talking about?
I believe his daughter is a big wheel for the Democrats in fundraising. The implication is that she is being very highly compensated (in excess of what a normal fundraiser would make) in order to funnel money to the judge or his family as a reward for convicting Trump.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 9:44 am to RFK
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Isn’t it pretty cut and dry this had nothing to do with his official capacity running the country?
No, the evidence the judge allowed to be considered during trial covered official acts. He knew SCOTUS would be ruling on immunity and was warned not to introduce that evidence or testimony. He did it anyway.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 9:49 am to Nomadic Bengal
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That is a fricking disgusting comment, but why am I surprised?
The comment on the 1st page about Merchan's daughter was made in context. Unfortunately you have no idea what that context was because you just outed yourself as uninformed. Maybe you should stay off Poli Talk if you don't understand current events like how Merchan's daughter factors into this from a corrupt and political angle. Idiot
Posted on 12/17/24 at 10:41 am to boomtown143
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Judge Merchan upholds Trump's 34 felony convictions despite pres.immunity ruling from SCOT
Not a surprise.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 10:42 am to FizzyPop
SCOTUS ruled you can NOT take evidence from presidential term to prosecute a president. Merchan allowed in evidence from trumps term and trumps assistant Hope whatshername. This was specifically outlawed but SCOTUS ruling.
Merchan’s respond was that “ it was an innocent mistake to use evidence and testimony outlawed by the SCOTUS ruling”…
This is clearly a flagrant violation of the SCOTUS ruling by Merchan…..
Purely political…
Merchan’s respond was that “ it was an innocent mistake to use evidence and testimony outlawed by the SCOTUS ruling”…
This is clearly a flagrant violation of the SCOTUS ruling by Merchan…..
Purely political…
Posted on 12/17/24 at 10:55 am to deeprig9
Its a campaign accounting designation attributed to his NDAs. Pretty much exactly what Hillary was doing with the dossier payments at the exact same time, and was never charged for even though her campaign was literally headquartered in Brooklyn, right across the East River from Trump Tower.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 11:01 am to Zgeo
I ask out of ignorance...is there any recourse for the judge if the ruling is as egregious as some here have suggested?
Posted on 12/17/24 at 11:06 am to RFK
The immunity ruling doesn’t apply. Different time and different category of offense.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 11:08 am to Wildcat1996
The case is not finalized so it is premature to reverse the case, which is what would happen once the case is final.
I had read that since Merchan has not finalized the case (and is stalling) Trumps team can ask for a “preemptive appeal” but i dont know if true or what that looks like. If true it will probably happen within a week….IMO
I had read that since Merchan has not finalized the case (and is stalling) Trumps team can ask for a “preemptive appeal” but i dont know if true or what that looks like. If true it will probably happen within a week….IMO
Posted on 12/17/24 at 11:08 am to WeeWee
What are the chances he schedules sentencing on January 20, 2025 at 12:00 noon? It would be his chance to give a giant ftick you to the American people. He will probably sentence Trump to the maximum jail term. Trump should be able to appeal that to the Supreme Court.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:00 pm to MemphisGuy
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That being said, immunity doesn't play into it.
Please explain when the judge let into evidence evidence that should not be allowed into the trial according to the Supreme Court?
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:01 pm to VOR
Shut up, homo.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:08 pm to boomtown143
This is the "hush money" persecution show trial.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:13 pm to VOR
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The immunity ruling doesn’t apply. Different time and different category of offense.
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Posted by VOR
9/4/24 at 8:07 pm
Trump will never sniff the White House again. Guaranteed.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:20 pm to boomtown143
The use of privledged, under SCOTUS immunity, guarantees him a mistrial.
It does not guarantee a dismissal.
However, to get an appellate court to issue a dismissal OR Merchan's court to declare a mistrial (with evidence ruled privledged used in the conviction) he would have to be sentenced.
Which Merchan has now delayed approximately 4 years.
Truth be told, this only ends when BOTH Bragg and Merchan are no longer in their current roles. There is one sure fire way to make sure that happens sooner rather than later.
It does not guarantee a dismissal.
However, to get an appellate court to issue a dismissal OR Merchan's court to declare a mistrial (with evidence ruled privledged used in the conviction) he would have to be sentenced.
Which Merchan has now delayed approximately 4 years.
Truth be told, this only ends when BOTH Bragg and Merchan are no longer in their current roles. There is one sure fire way to make sure that happens sooner rather than later.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:32 pm to deeprig9
The case relied heavily on the testimony of Hope Hicks, who was working for Trump in an official capacity and the SC has determined that since that is the case she would have executive immunity. Or so I hear from muh interwebs.
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