re: Jordan Peterson: conservative movement must move on from stolen election narrative

I’ve never compromised: voted Libertarian my entire life.

As usual most of the folks here are too obtuse to parse a simple statement or find nuance.

He didn’t say give up. Nor to roll over. He said sacrifice the narrative.

Move on to focus on what comes next. Which in many respects conservatives have. The next included reopening the country, rolling back draconian edicts from power hungry state level executive office holders, helping to restart the economy and passing stricter election laws in reaction to what happened.

I think for the most part he realizes what Republicans don’t, which is that none are going to pick up arms against their government despite the blathering in this thread. He also realizes that this bell cannot be unrung. Though it can be protected against being rung in the same way again.

Democrats used a once in a millennia freak occurrence coupled with weak election laws and their manipulation of them to win the Presidency by 42,000 votes. They have to have the VPOTUS vote in the Senate to control it. They lost House seats.

But what’s done is done and I will bet anyone any amount of money that it short of time travel, history cannot be changed. Conservatives must not forget history and work to ensure they learn from it lest they be forced to repeat it.

Which means they cannot expect a perfect storm that the Democrats were gifted. So they must adapt and work harder.

They did this politically a generation ago by sacrificing a narrative and focusing politics a level lower than they traditionally had. They realized-astutely-that Tip O’Neil was right. All politics is local.

They focused on state central committees, parish party committees and state houses. Why did they do this? They shrewdly realized that by doing so they would and could control the districting and redistricting processes across the nation. Not only creating more favorable districts but influencing the very candidates that ran within them.

They must do so again. Lick their collective fingers. Turn the page. The midterms are where they can create a fireline and then focus on 2024. But you only do that by turning forward. Work on what cost you. Ensure you don’t lose to the same move or tactic twice. Focus your energy on the hurdles ahead. Not the stumbles behind.

That’s all Peterson is saying. Most are just too dumb to realize it. Or are still too attached to their ego to let it go and move on to the next opportunity to influence our governmental process.

Saban was right. Never look at the scoreboard until the game is over. Which in politics is never. Work tirelessly in focusing on the next play. It will help you forget about the last play which doing will never help you succeed.

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Dr Jordan B Peterson
@jordanbpeterson
The conservatives have to sacrifice Trump and the stolen election narrative. The liberals have to sacrifice DIE (diversity,equity, inclusion) and CRT. The road to peace requires its pound of flesh from both parties.

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Mr Jordan! Mr Jordan sir! It seems that’s our problem, we conservatives have tended to lick our wounds and move on, the Dims have rightfully understood this “moving on” by conservatives as a fatal flaw/weakness of conservatives. Mr Jordan, when do we say enough and fight?

Never put much faith in this guy. Lost even more of my respect here

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Equating the two is pure nonsense for multiple reasons.

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He isn't equating the 2. He's suggesting they're both stupid and counterproductive. And he's correct.

He's kind of right in that you can't just focus on that and expect to make waves politically but you can't completely forget about it either. Not everyone is into politics and nowhere near everyone in this country is into civics. Concerns about voting and big picture politics won't reach some people. Things that have a concrete effect you can see and feel like crime going up when police are defunded, and your taxes going up and your income going down due to inflation are things people get into whether they want to or not. Not everyone is concerned about how something effects the entire country. They do get concerned when they figure out how it effects them personally.

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The conservatives have to sacrifice Trump and the stolen election narrative. The liberals have to sacrifice DIE (diversity,equity, inclusion) and CRT.

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Leftists go first.

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Though it can be protected against being rung in the same way again.

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Believing this RINO fairytale makes your entire wall of text moot.

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He isn't equating the 2.

He's suggesting they're both stupid and counterproductive..

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You contradicted yourself in the same post.

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And he's correct.

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What do you have against a review concerning the safeguards of election integrity?

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don’t think conservatives and non-radicals should just take all this crap that was thrust upon them. That’s how we got here

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Dilly dilly