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re: Jon Bel wants massive tax increases

Posted on 2/26/18 at 9:59 am to
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 9:59 am to
He "sounds" that way, but he really doesn't act that way.

He is chairman of Senate revenue and fisc because of Alario. Alario will follow JBE's orders.

How the "Republican" senate puts democrats in charge of the three most important committees: Finance, Rev and Fisc and Govt Affairs is baffling to me. Say what you about Alario is he a heck of a skilled politician.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:00 am to
quote:

you think they will keep it temporary? Julia O'Donoghue last night:



That is a great question. My guess right now is 1/4 cent temporary, 1/4 cent permanent. But I really don't know.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67079 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:04 am to
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How the "Republican" senate puts democrats in charge of the three most important committees: Finance, Rev and Fisc and Govt Affairs is baffling to me. Say what you about Alario is he a heck of a skilled politician.


The Senate is a bunch of RINO's. There's a few real republicans in there, but when you combine the card carrying democrats with the former democrats that turned coats during the Jindal Administration, you get a solid majority, same as in the U.S. Senate. The governor has a ton of power to extort legislators via the line-item veto. Oppose the governor and risk your district being cut off from infrastructure funding for the foreseeable future. If there's a University in your district, that goes double.

The House has enough real republicans to occassionally put up a fight, but the Senate is Edwards's b&%#h. When Jon-Bel says "jump", the Senate asks "how high?"
This post was edited on 2/26/18 at 10:06 am
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6450 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:09 am to
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The House has enough real republicans to occassionally put up a fight, but the Senate is Edwards's b&%#h. When Jon-Bel says "jump", the Senate asks "how high?"


Yeah? Where are they?
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3823 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:14 am to
I actually tend to agree with most of that. We will obviously have to increase (or renew) taxes this session and as a conservative that pains me to say because I know all of that revenue will be pissed away. We absolutely HAVE to look at reigning in costs for the future. Rep. Barras' spending cap proposal will probably be the most important piece of legislation this year IMO. It requires a few factors to be met before state spending can increase: Regional CPI, personal income levels, population growth, and the price of oil. Plus it caps the spending increase to no more than 6% even if those factors are met.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:15 am to
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So some perspective: about a billion in tax revenue is going away next year.

Which leads to a ideological question-if you renew $800 million in taxes, are you increasing taxes (since absent a change in the law you would be paying less) or are cutting taxes since $800 million is less than the billion that is being collected now?


So essentially he wants to keep taxes level? As long as the money is being spent on programs that benefit the gowth of the state I don't see an issue with this. Problem is I don't trust that moon faced idiot. Per LA politician standards this is just an opportunity to make LA Dems interests richer as opposed to LA Republican's.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:17 am to
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So essentially he wants to keep taxes level?

no it looks like no matter what they will go back down to some degree
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Jon Bel wants massive tax increases



What specifically am I getting in return for the JBE tax hike?
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
2915 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:21 am to
Jeff Landry is not Troy Landry's cousin.
Posted by Amblin
Member since Sep 2011
2570 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:21 am to
Screw that. Redo the LA Constitution and remove all the "protected" tax breaks the politicians have inserted over the years. Each year every friggin program should be reviewed to see if the program is no longer needed or if the funds can be reduced, etc.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95358 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:23 am to
:facepalm:

Remember when Ross Perot heard the “sucking sound” of jobs going to Mexico due to NAFTA?

I’m hearing that same sound of jobs and people heading to Texas.
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3823 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:26 am to
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Screw that. Redo the LA Constitution and remove all the "protected" tax breaks the politicians have inserted over the years. Each year every friggin program should be reviewed to see if the program is no longer needed or if the funds can be reduced, etc.



Agree. Politicians have been blaming the constitution for the last decade but no one has had the balls to step up and call for a convention. Surely it has to happen in the next 5 years, right?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56324 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:26 am to
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Yea right. elect a complete moron and see how far that gets you.

He talk like us, and was on da YouTube.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14491 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:27 am to
quote:

As long as the money is being spent on programs that benefit the gowth of the state I don't see an issue with this. Problem is I don't trust that moon faced idiot. Per LA politician standards this is just an opportunity to make LA Dems interests richer as opposed to LA Republican's.


And there's your problem. JBE could have proposed some spending reforms and some cuts and the House's argument would be a lot weaker. Instead he went the 100% revenue route.

Now the House could have countered with a bunch of cuts and actual spending reforms but they didn't want to stick out their necks.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23701 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:34 am to
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Hell yeah! More taxes for those great government services we get. Schools? Nope Roads? Lol Police? Nope


That is so true. The Jindal era cuts really didn’t get us anywhere, did they? Now we are so broke we are raising taxes to cover already existing obligations. This is where republican economics and tax policies get you. We are raising taxes to fight off default. Totally sucks.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14491 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:45 am to
quote:

That is so true. The Jindal era cuts really didn’t get us anywhere, did they? Now we are so broke we are raising taxes to cover already existing obligations. This is where republican economics and tax policies get you. We are raising taxes to fight off default. Totally sucks.


Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:49 am to
Remember when JBE said that he wouldn't raise taxes and he based that on his West Point Honor Code?



Never trust a democrat, especially the kind of ambulance chasing democrat that has made this state one of the worst run and most corrupt.

Lol, I would be embarrassed for myself if I was a Vitter hater passing on a qualified and well credentialed conservative candidate for a lying democrat like JBE.
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2655 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Redo the LA Constitution

quote:

Agree. Politicians have been blaming the constitution for the last decade but no one has had the balls to step up


The issue isn't that they don't have the balls to do it. Instead, they really just want to kick the can down the road and enjoy using the LA Constitution as an excuse. You can bet that it would get done if it were important to them.
This post was edited on 2/26/18 at 10:51 am
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71392 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:52 am to
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I'm out either way



I'm with ya on that. at Clay fricking Higgins being some sort of savior.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:53 am to
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The fact Dardenne is now on Edwards staff means JBE’s greatest opponent won’t challenge him.


lol Dardenne is a clown that had no business running in the first place. He's nowhere near the conservative he claims he is and he gave up that claim not only endorsing JBE but also working for him.

He couldn't even beat Vitter who was running a terrible campaign.

Dardenne would get his mud hole stomped even bigger than 2015.
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