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re: Indian and foreign owned businesses

Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:34 am to
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:34 am to
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Time to select for immigrants who are WINNERS with strong western values.


I mean Indians do have strong western values. The ones I worked for anyway. They have a nuclear family, education is the top priority, and do not commit violent crime. They know how to save. Some of these comments reek of jealousy. They are living the American dream.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:37 am to
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They do not care one iota about upkeep or making their establishment look pleasing to the community is of absolute zero interest to them. They could care less about the community, it’s all about squeezing out as much profit as possible



I disagree. See Huntsville and Hoover.


Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:19 am to
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3) They do not care one iota about upkeep or making their establishment look pleasing to the community is of absolute zero interest to them. They could care less about the community, it’s all about squeezing out as much profit as possible


Please tell us about all the community work and volunteering you do to make the community better.

American companies doing a lot of bad things but maximizing profit isn't one of them.

Not sure if you do but if you shop at Walmart... you are part of the much bigger problem you speak of. Predatory stores, squeezing local governments for tax breaks and threatening to open up just outside the city limits if they don't get them. Buying up retail property and sitting on it to knock out competition. Dilapidated town squares in their wake. You like chinese shite... go to Walmart. Want to pay less and keep fulltime employees off your payroll... have seminars about government assistance.



Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:23 am to
My experience with them is in hotels, hospitals and apartment complexes. They are buying everything.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16322 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:33 am to
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Running a good business focused on profit? Since when was a businesses job about community? Businesses are there to make money and that's it unless they have other goals stated in their mission statements....


Boy… you would be a popular speaker at the next protest in front of Exxon’s headquarters.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
16895 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:41 am to
The uptick in Indian threads can't be accidental...
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:50 am to
I own exxon stock why am I protesting them?


Fwiw it's why I believe government needs to regulate companies like exxon to protect other people. Their motive is to make money really at all costs. They can put fluffy statements on it but nothing else they want happens without profit first.... Environmental impact- we need to worry about for society but exxon is incentives to really not give a shite...that's not to say we haven't gone to far and too restrictive with rules but some rules need to exist or they'll poison our water while paying me a dividend without blinking an eye....


Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
1473 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:01 am to
I am ok with most of that, except any built in advantages due to being "immigrants".

People can choose where they bring their business if they do not put any effort in upkeep.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:06 am to
I work with a lot of Indians, Persians, Israelis, etc.

Most are pleasant enough, respectful, so forth. All can have annoying quirks, be demanding, etc.

Indians can definitely be insular, although typically in my experience they reach a point where they want community involvement. It's only natural for most. I think the same is true of all enclaves - the desire to "fit in" is natural and they reach a saturation point where that exceeds their own community.

That isn't justification for importing people who have nothing to do with America, but I think we need to highlight that reality and stick to it rather than claiming they'll never assimilate or hate America or whatever, because a lot of people hearing that will have anecdotal experiences in the other direction.

I don't have any great animosity toward these immigrant communities. There is just no reason for them to be lured in from across the world to live here.
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
3100 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:50 am to
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That isn't justification for importing people who have nothing to do with America, but I think we need to highlight that reality and stick to it rather than claiming they'll never assimilate or hate America or whatever, because a lot of people hearing that will have anecdotal experiences in the other direction. I don't have any great animosity toward these immigrant communities. There is just no reason for them to be lured in from across the world to live here.



Before one of the Kennedys and LBJ got together and decided to change where we took immigrants from, we largely took immigrants from Cristiane European countries.

I’d be OK with taking some Indians that were Christians from Kerala.
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:53 am to
Muslims who follow shariah law and Hindus most certainly do not. Nor do truckers who can’t read English road safety signs and kill people via vehicular homicide.

Good ones can be selected. Bad ones denied.

Your comment reeks of condescion, and your head being willfully in the sand.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20832 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:37 pm to
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I have some experience dealing with foreign owned business like liquor stores and gas stations and their properties

A few observations

1) They only hire their kin and people in their caste. Their loyalty lies with their caste and ethnicity

2) They split all their businesses with each other and go out and gobble up a bunch of liquor stores or gas stations, etc on the cheap

3) They do not care one iota about upkeep or making their establishment look pleasing to the community is of absolute zero interest to them. They could care less about the community, it’s all about squeezing out as much profit as possible

4) They are able to somehow completely take advantage of the visa system and bring in a bunch additional foreign help instead of hiring local workers


How about you Patel us something we don't already know!
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
3419 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:43 pm to
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the tax incentives and programs to help immigrants start businesses that aren't available to citizens

I don't have a problem with people coming here but the playing field should be even


Good call, this one seems like a no brainer with the current public stance towards immigration.

We're already attractive enough towards immigrants, what purpose is this policy serving today?

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36790 posts
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:55 pm to
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My only issue that stout regularly points out is the tax incentives and programs to help immigrants start businesses that aren't available to citizens

I don't have a problem with people coming here but the playing field should be even


never thought I would be agreeing with powerman, even if its only half way

1) i think we should have a pause on immigration for 3 years and then go back to the nations formula

2) you are correct, the bigger problem is the interest free loans or grants the government gives to them to come here and the uneven playing field.

3) you shouldnt be able to get h1b visa to bring over damn store clerks. thats bullshite.

end H1B and loans to foreigners to open businesses and bring back the nations formula!!
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19654 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:03 am to
You would call Jesus a camel jockey?
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6346 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:07 am to
It is crazy that every liquor store in my area is Indian owned. They do a good job and they are clean and well run. One guy has 2 stores and he employees non-Indians at his stores.
The others it is usually just a couple of Indians you see in and out running the store.
It's like the Vietnamese and Koreans having all the donut shops. Very strange how these retail segments are almost solely a single ethnicity in DFW.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6183 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:09 am to
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5) They get HUGE tax breaks and basically pay none

Yup, if you notice many close their store every 6 or so years.
It then comes back under a different name.

Which tells you they have taken a loss for tax purposes every year.

Same people own it.

They still make money hand over fist.

But massive tax cheating happens.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27590 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:15 am to
OP is 100% correct.

We should just take the Indian (Jewish) businesses. They are not consistent with our American (German) morals. The Indians (Jews) only care about making money and do nothing for our communities. They only hire their own and just bring in more Indians (Jews).

This slope isn’t even slippery.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 7:18 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170747 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:18 am to
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3) you shouldnt be able to get h1b visa to bring over damn store clerks. thats bullshite.


Agreed

It should be utilized for specialized portions of the economy where there is a legitimate labor shortage
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36790 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:23 am to
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Agreed

It should be utilized for specialized portions of the economy where there is a legitimate labor shortage


it was originally designed for that and for bringing the best talent from across the world here...problem is that is not what they are doing. They are abusing the frick out of it.

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