Crimson1st

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8-9 teams beyond that even.

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More like 6-7 teams!

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Change just these six moments over 17 years and the Alabama dynasty is non-existent.

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Colt McCoy wasn’t a guaranteed anything. But we can do the same the other way…the Prayer at Jordan Hare doesn’t happen, Bama would have been in the Natty just like The Kick 6 and about 20 other plays in that game to seal it.Bama got hosed several times, that’s a couple that stuck out to me but yeah that “what if” crap can cut both ways homie.

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you cannot make a single logical argument why we would lie about that.

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I’m split on the subject but if you think being the first to the Moon and flexing like that was not HUGE on the Cold War scene, you’re fooling yourself. That’s ample motivation there easily.

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SEC programs with a 15 win season in any era.

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So?

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That was back when we believed in Brian Kelly. He definitely pulled the wool over our eyes.

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Apparently you believe Kiffin won't do the same thing???

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If you beat my team you're respected and considered a threat. It's why LSU fans consider Ole Miss a threat and vice versa. It's why Alabama fans consider LSU a threat although they are loathe to admit it.

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Bro, how many wins has LSU had vs Bama since 9-6 in 2011…it’s not loathe to admit a damn thing….there’s just nothing to admit to in the first place. WTF kind of example was that you used?

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Yes it will not end well for Bama before their implosion

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Yeah and this was supposed to have already happened for what since 2007 now?

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As of now, there is no debate as Uga is your 2025 SECC.

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Ok, were you saying the same thing when Bama beat UGA in the SECCG before UGA returned the favor in the Natty? Doubt it.

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Bama needs to advance further than uga to even begin thinking about a debate.

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Why? That's a bit absurd when Bama beat UGA earlier in the season in their own crib and moving forward from here, they are in an even position for advancement. It certainly doesn't merit your claiming that Bama has been supplanted this year in SEC Hierarchy.

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2 national titles to ZERO is resounding evidence proving the point.

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Ok, but that's just one metric point you're using to make your claims...I went by head to head where it's 3-1 in the same span of time. If you want to look at that like there has been a replacement of who is at the top, fine but that's still very shaky when you take the whole picture. I'd say it's still pretty even, even cherry picking the most recent seasons.

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For me, Bama is only really meaningful when we play them. And the reality is we rarely do that.

The only reason Bama fans seem to have some animosity toward UGA is that some people view UGA as having passed Bama in the current SEC heirarchy. But there's no real history between the two teams.

We've had 8 regular season matchups in the last 25 years (5-3, in favor of Bama).
8 in the 25 years before that. (also 5-3 in favor of Bama).

It's just not a rivalry. We don't play often enough and we tend to both dislike many of the same opponents.

UGA just happened to be the team that moved up to challenge Bama as they were at the top with Saban as their coach. Bama fans don't like that a team is challenging them or may have passed them, but I think if they are honest with themselves they'll realize their feelings are more similar to what they felt with Florida when Spurrier was there then an actual hated rival.

For me a big game against Bama is important... butt no more important than a big game against Ohio State or LSU (when they're good).

It's just a big game.

If UGA makes it to the final this year and plays Bama, I'll want UGA to win. But not any more than if it were Oregon or Indiana we're playing.

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Fair post and i appreciate your taking the time to actually break things down and not flame. I don't have the time at the moment to dissect everything for a point by point debate BUT I would say that I disagree with your take that UGA has surpassed Alabama on the current SEC Hierarchy unless you are strictly referring to this year. And even in this year, Bama, upon defeating UGA initially was ahead of them. Alabama was also ahead in 2023 when we were razor thin close to winning the Natty that year. I would say it's about even at the moment on the pecking order. :cheers:

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That's what's so great. All of that is over. And it's not coming back. That's why it's so damn satisfying. There's gonna be a lot more of back to reality for all of you bammers. Year after year. LSU, Georgia, Texas. Hell even Tennessee,.. will all be stronger teams consistently.

And apparently Oklahoma too..

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Bite me!

How many times have we re-hashed this stuff, for YEARS now been hearing about how Alabama is on the decline, it's over, donezo, finito...and guess what, Bama always is either still right in the mix or lurking close by.

I know there is a HUGE hive mentality in this thread because I dropped some truths and those smart a bit. You talk about how it's satisfying as well to see how "the fall" has been happening.

Problem is we've been hearing about this fall for a long time. I have already pointed out that Alabama at some point in each season from 2008-2022 Was at #1, of course they didn't win Natties every year but they were up to #1 in the polls each year at some point. That's not a "t-decline". I have a tough time seeing how "satisfied" you can be watching a non-demise demise of a team. Even since 2022, Alabama was on the doorstep of cashing in again. Now Alabama is in the final 8...sorry, I am struggling to see this collapse you are fantasizing over...