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re: Incompetence or intentional - where do you stand right now?
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:31 pm to Smeg
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:31 pm to Smeg
For me it was incompetence born of complacency.
I seriously doubt the lady head of the Secret Service will be employed much longer.
Somebody is going to have be the sacrificial scapegoat for the gigantic FUBAR lapse in security.
I seriously doubt the lady head of the Secret Service will be employed much longer.
Somebody is going to have be the sacrificial scapegoat for the gigantic FUBAR lapse in security.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:32 pm to Smeg
100% Intentional
Who is behind it is undetermined but those who could stop it turned a blind eye. Some very powerful and rich people did not want DJT in power. They had the connections to take a shot. Sleepy Joe was not included as part of the scheme but then again he is also not included in any of the legitimate things that should be his to decide
Who is behind it is undetermined but those who could stop it turned a blind eye. Some very powerful and rich people did not want DJT in power. They had the connections to take a shot. Sleepy Joe was not included as part of the scheme but then again he is also not included in any of the legitimate things that should be his to decide
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:33 pm to Smeg
Incompetence.
Its the direct result from a hire of someone that NEVER should have been in that position.
Its the direct result from a hire of someone that NEVER should have been in that position.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:34 pm to Smeg
Maybe it is wishful thinking, but I can’t bring myself to believe that it could have been intentional. Too many people would have had to have been involved in the plot.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:34 pm to Smeg
99% intentional.
Almost no chance he gets past the perimeter with that gun. Now lets pretend he magically appeared with the gun inside the perimeter, from that starting point nearly zero chance he gets on the unguarded roof with out any help. Combine the two approaching zero percent.
Almost no chance he gets past the perimeter with that gun. Now lets pretend he magically appeared with the gun inside the perimeter, from that starting point nearly zero chance he gets on the unguarded roof with out any help. Combine the two approaching zero percent.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:35 pm to Smeg
I was thinking incompetence until I heard the quote today about not posting agents on the roof due to the slope. Meanwhile where is a sniper team on a sloped roof that the entire world has seen. Nobody could be that incompetent.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:37 pm to 75503Tiger
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Sleepy Joe was not included as part of the scheme but then again he is also not included in any of the legitimate things that should be his to decid
Agree, but Jill could be and recommended Cheatle to the post.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:39 pm to Smeg
I started by giving the benefit of the doubt that it was merely incompetence.
The head of the SS is doing everything she can to cast aspersions on the whole admin by how she is handling things.
The head of the SS is doing everything she can to cast aspersions on the whole admin by how she is handling things.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:42 pm to Smeg
85% chance incompetence with bureaucratic stupidity.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:49 pm to Smeg
90/10
If it was intentional, I think they would have had better/multiple shooters, because if you miss, you are going to play hell covering it up, especially if the guy you tried to whack becomes the president.
Now, was it intentional putting a small, possibly incompetent team around Trump? Absolutely. But I put some of that on team Trump. If you even suspect that you have a bunch of numbnuts responsible for your safety, you take some of your billions of dollars and hire as many badass operators as they say it will take to protect yourself and your family. Expecting the government to provide solutions to your problems is a little too marxist democrat for me.
If it was intentional, I think they would have had better/multiple shooters, because if you miss, you are going to play hell covering it up, especially if the guy you tried to whack becomes the president.
Now, was it intentional putting a small, possibly incompetent team around Trump? Absolutely. But I put some of that on team Trump. If you even suspect that you have a bunch of numbnuts responsible for your safety, you take some of your billions of dollars and hire as many badass operators as they say it will take to protect yourself and your family. Expecting the government to provide solutions to your problems is a little too marxist democrat for me.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:50 pm to geauxpurple
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Maybe it is wishful thinking, but I can’t bring myself to believe that it could have been intentional. Too many people would have had to have been involved in the plot.
I find your lack of ability to believe it could have been intentional laughable. After all the ways the leftist scum have tried to remove Trump from the ballot, all failing right now and the assassination attempt happens. Why too many people have to be involved. What happened was obvious in so many ways.
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[/url] Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:51 pm to Smeg
I'm still on incompetence but they're stretching credulity the more that comes out.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:53 pm to Jake88
Besides all the other stuff, the SS jumped on Trump to protect him, then propped him up as to offer him up for another shot. I'd imagine they'd keep the target hidden as much as possible while getting him out of there?
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:53 pm to geauxpurple
quote:Its always more comfortable thinking something accidental, incompetence, or random than evil.
Maybe it is wishful thinking, but I can’t bring myself to believe that it could have been intentional.
I have no firm opinion at this time, but the USSS head’s excuse that the slope was too steep to cover strains credulity.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:54 pm to LSURussian
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For me it was incompetence born of complacency
You really think this “incompetence” would have happened at a Biden event?
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:57 pm to Smeg
My gut was initially intentional. Now I lean heavily gross, shocking, unacceptable incompetence. I say this based on the record of hires by the left and the gradual erosion of competence across ALL levels of our federal government.
BUT, I would be 100% not shocked to learn it was intentional, whether it be intentional action to provide weak protection or direct recruitment of the shooter.
BUT, I would be 100% not shocked to learn it was intentional, whether it be intentional action to provide weak protection or direct recruitment of the shooter.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:59 pm to LSURussian
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For me it was incompetence born of complacency.
I seriously doubt the lady head of the Secret Service will be employed much longer.
Who is going to end her employment? Biden? Her job is not in jeopardy.
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