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re: Incompetence or intentional - where do you stand right now?

Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133590 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:31 pm to
For me it was incompetence born of complacency.

I seriously doubt the lady head of the Secret Service will be employed much longer.

Somebody is going to have be the sacrificial scapegoat for the gigantic FUBAR lapse in security.
Posted by 75503Tiger
Member since Sep 2015
4821 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:32 pm to
100% Intentional

Who is behind it is undetermined but those who could stop it turned a blind eye. Some very powerful and rich people did not want DJT in power. They had the connections to take a shot. Sleepy Joe was not included as part of the scheme but then again he is also not included in any of the legitimate things that should be his to decide
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9290 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:33 pm to
Intentional

Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26326 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:33 pm to
Incompetence.

Its the direct result from a hire of someone that NEVER should have been in that position.

Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
16559 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:34 pm to
Maybe it is wishful thinking, but I can’t bring myself to believe that it could have been intentional. Too many people would have had to have been involved in the plot.
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
1507 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:34 pm to
I’m going with incompetence.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16155 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:34 pm to
99% intentional.

Almost no chance he gets past the perimeter with that gun. Now lets pretend he magically appeared with the gun inside the perimeter, from that starting point nearly zero chance he gets on the unguarded roof with out any help. Combine the two approaching zero percent.
Posted by onelochevy
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2011
18052 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:35 pm to
I was thinking incompetence until I heard the quote today about not posting agents on the roof due to the slope. Meanwhile where is a sniper team on a sloped roof that the entire world has seen. Nobody could be that incompetent.
Posted by Big Daddy Kayne
Member since May 2020
437 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:35 pm to
intentional incompetence
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5514 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

Sleepy Joe was not included as part of the scheme but then again he is also not included in any of the legitimate things that should be his to decid


Agree, but Jill could be and recommended Cheatle to the post.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103130 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:39 pm to
I started by giving the benefit of the doubt that it was merely incompetence.

The head of the SS is doing everything she can to cast aspersions on the whole admin by how she is handling things.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78074 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:42 pm to
85% chance incompetence with bureaucratic stupidity.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:49 pm to
90/10

If it was intentional, I think they would have had better/multiple shooters, because if you miss, you are going to play hell covering it up, especially if the guy you tried to whack becomes the president.

Now, was it intentional putting a small, possibly incompetent team around Trump? Absolutely. But I put some of that on team Trump. If you even suspect that you have a bunch of numbnuts responsible for your safety, you take some of your billions of dollars and hire as many badass operators as they say it will take to protect yourself and your family. Expecting the government to provide solutions to your problems is a little too marxist democrat for me.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
1016 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:50 pm to
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Maybe it is wishful thinking, but I can’t bring myself to believe that it could have been intentional. Too many people would have had to have been involved in the plot.


I find your lack of ability to believe it could have been intentional laughable. After all the ways the leftist scum have tried to remove Trump from the ballot, all failing right now and the assassination attempt happens. Why too many people have to be involved. What happened was obvious in so many ways.

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Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26924 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:51 pm to
I'm still on incompetence but they're stretching credulity the more that comes out.
Posted by Bro Dad
Used to live in LaPlass
Member since Feb 2015
894 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:53 pm to
Besides all the other stuff, the SS jumped on Trump to protect him, then propped him up as to offer him up for another shot. I'd imagine they'd keep the target hidden as much as possible while getting him out of there?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62567 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:53 pm to
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Maybe it is wishful thinking, but I can’t bring myself to believe that it could have been intentional.
Its always more comfortable thinking something accidental, incompetence, or random than evil.

I have no firm opinion at this time, but the USSS head’s excuse that the slope was too steep to cover strains credulity.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5514 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:54 pm to
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For me it was incompetence born of complacency


You really think this “incompetence” would have happened at a Biden event?
Posted by LSUChamps03
Member since Feb 2006
2937 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:57 pm to
My gut was initially intentional. Now I lean heavily gross, shocking, unacceptable incompetence. I say this based on the record of hires by the left and the gradual erosion of competence across ALL levels of our federal government.

BUT, I would be 100% not shocked to learn it was intentional, whether it be intentional action to provide weak protection or direct recruitment of the shooter.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5560 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:59 pm to
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For me it was incompetence born of complacency.

I seriously doubt the lady head of the Secret Service will be employed much longer.


Who is going to end her employment? Biden? Her job is not in jeopardy.
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