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re: Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker Signs Bill Legalizing Assisted Suicide for Terminally Ill
Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:43 am to The Torch
Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:43 am to The Torch
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I actually agree with this.
Is it a sin? If I chose to go out like that would I be leaving the world with an unconfessed sin? That would be my main internal question and likely drawback about choosing to go out like that.
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:50 am to Ingeniero
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but it quickly becomes a cost-saving measure like in Canada
This.
MAiD is awful.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:59 am to SallysHuman
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MAiD is awful.
So easy to say when you have not experienced the acute suffering of a loved one.
And I'm happy for you that you have not had such an experience.
Some deaths are gentle. Others are gruesome torture.
For the latter, a physician assisted death can be a compassionate and dignified act.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 11:17 am to retired_tiger
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So easy to say when you have not experienced the acute suffering of a loved one.
You know nothing about me and are obviously ignoring the abuses of this program in Canada.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 11:17 am to prouddawg
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Is it a sin?
Have you ever had a family member in this situation, I assume not.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:07 pm to The Torch
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Have you ever had a family member in this situation, I assume not.
Well you proved the old adage right about what you do when you assume. I have watched my father die with dementia and am moving my mother in in two weeks to live with us under Hospice care. If you comprehended my comment in the first place, it was from the standpoint of my personal pondering, and was in no way judgmental of others for the decision they chose to make. But you chopped off that part of my comment.
Edit : my entire comment
Is it a sin? If I chose to go out like that would I be leaving the world with an unconfessed sin? That would be main internal question and likely drawback about choosing to go out like that.
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:20 pm to The Torch
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This fat piece of shite is a moron but I actually agree with this.
I don't think it should be limited to the terminally ill. If someone wants to check out that's their right to.
Put protections in place such as laws that a person cannot be solicited to or even asked if they would want to. A person has to bring it up themselves and given opportunities to change their mind every step.
3 Body Problem on Netflix had it right. Give them a box with 10 buttons and a screen that gives a single digit number at random. They have push the right button 7 or 10 times in a row and then it starts the injection in their IV.
We shouldn't force people who don't want to live to live.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:25 pm to SallysHuman
Is the law working as intended in the United States?
To my understanding, yes. But I admit that I don't know every single case.
Re whatever may be happening in Canada, if there are problems, then we should be able to draft a law to address that.
To my understanding, yes. But I admit that I don't know every single case.
Re whatever may be happening in Canada, if there are problems, then we should be able to draft a law to address that.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:26 pm to geauxbrown
agree 100%. one of my best friends from childhood was diagnosed with breast cancer at 18. she went through over a decade of treatment>it's in remission>it's back>treatment>repeat over and over. the docs finally told her there was nothing more that could be done. so she and her family went to hawaii for a 2 week vacation and at the end they had found a doctor who allowed her to cross over surrounded by her loved ones. chokes me up just typing that out but it should be an option for people
Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:45 pm to prouddawg
I watched my dad die of cancer, it was terrible but they kept him drugged up, we brought him home and put a hospital bed in the living room of my mom's home. It was bad but he died of natural causes.
My uncle smoked camel non filters all his life, if he couldn't get them he would smoke Marlboro Reds and break the filter off.
Needless to say when he went down it was bad, emphysema/cardiac, couldn't breath or eat and was rolling around in the hospital bed crying in misery.
The Dr (an old family friend) asked my aunt if she was ready and when she said yes he told her to go home. The next call was that he had passed, we never asked any questions but we all know what happened.
My uncle smoked camel non filters all his life, if he couldn't get them he would smoke Marlboro Reds and break the filter off.
Needless to say when he went down it was bad, emphysema/cardiac, couldn't breath or eat and was rolling around in the hospital bed crying in misery.
The Dr (an old family friend) asked my aunt if she was ready and when she said yes he told her to go home. The next call was that he had passed, we never asked any questions but we all know what happened.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:49 pm to jimmy the leg
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I mean, if a person in a depression decides to target themselves, do they get help in by Dr. Kevorkian?
Do you think depression falls under “terminally ill?”
Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:50 pm to bluestem75
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Because the government can misuse it and start ordering doctors to kill people instead of treat them. “Oh, you’re 70 and have an aggressive cancer? Y’know the treatment is going to be too expensive, so Medicare/Medicaid won’t cover it at your age. I’m afraid there’s only one other option…”
This is such hyperbolic nonsense, I almost feel bad quoting it in a post of mine.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:00 pm to SallysHuman
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MAiD is awful.
There is no argument that MAID is the correct, compassionate answer in many a scenario. No doubt at all.
The argument against it is slippery slope/how to write the policy. And that’s a very legitimate counter. My answer to that is….
Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:24 pm to The Torch
All Democrats/Liberals/Marxists have a sinister infatuation with murder. If they're not trying to kill babies, they're targeting the ill.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:04 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
People have the right to go out on their own terms. Forcing people to suffer because it makes you feel moral is not compassionate, and it's not moral. It's just you forcing your beliefs on others while they are the ones who pay the price.
Of course there are problems with how Canada does it. Not doing something because other people do it poorly is not a good excuse. If we didn't have to go through doctors to get every medication, then people could make the choice on their own without persuasion. Then you simply make it illegal for healthcare professionals to bring up assisted suicide. Strip their credentials and put them in jail.
It's possible to have a system that gives people dignity without pushing a death cult. We simply have to use common sense.
If some people choose to go out early, then so be it. Their choice. The number of people you save by making it illegal is dwarfed by the number of decent people who will suffer pain and indignity unnecessarily.
Of course there are problems with how Canada does it. Not doing something because other people do it poorly is not a good excuse. If we didn't have to go through doctors to get every medication, then people could make the choice on their own without persuasion. Then you simply make it illegal for healthcare professionals to bring up assisted suicide. Strip their credentials and put them in jail.
It's possible to have a system that gives people dignity without pushing a death cult. We simply have to use common sense.
If some people choose to go out early, then so be it. Their choice. The number of people you save by making it illegal is dwarfed by the number of decent people who will suffer pain and indignity unnecessarily.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:12 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Do you think depression falls under “terminally ill?”
No.
However, Canada might.
And if they follow through, then leftist states will probably do the same.
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Dying with Dignity Canada provided testimony to the Parliamentary Special Joint Committee on Medical Assistance in Dying (AMAD), which discussed the possibility of expanding eligibility to mature minors and people with mental illness.
It’s eugenics under the guise of sympathy.
The far left runs Canada…and they are Communazis.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:17 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Fully support this and it probably shouldn’t be limited to strictly terminal illnesses. There are a host of other debilitating conditions which should be considered as well, should the patient choose.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:10 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Wow I found one thing I agree with this POS about
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:22 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Before returning to my faith, I would have supported this. But seeing it utilized in Canada & what they're trying to do in the UK, which amounts to expanding the purview of this option to factors completely irrespective of the terminality of the illness, which even in those cases prognoses can be wrong & people can beat the odds, what you find is that it's essentially the Left's version of the German T4 program utilized to eliminate "economic dregs" and, even more insidious, the nativist population.
Programs like this and abortion are pure evil and societies that enable & promote such programs are suffering from deep moral, institutional, & spiritual rot. And I would arrive at that conclusion were I still an atheist.
Programs like this and abortion are pure evil and societies that enable & promote such programs are suffering from deep moral, institutional, & spiritual rot. And I would arrive at that conclusion were I still an atheist.
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