re: I just want to know how it got to be that we're still stuck with George Bush.

In a way, I get it. Trump has more lee-way with bombing Iran than removing extortionists and grifters from America.

The US justice system is a quagmire of Mother May Is. It's honestly gross how difficult it is to get anything done.

i have laid out trumps stances before line item by line item.

you think they are all the same as W?



Here is trumps accomplishments again. Show me where bush did all this and on this level. spoiler. he didn't

see links within this link

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You can't allow a nation that sponsors terrorism around the world to develop nuclear weapons.

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Are we really going with this line again

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No matter who you vote for, you get John McCain

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I never once was delusional enough to believe that Donald Trump would start channeling Ron Paul when it came to foreign policy. Yet seeing Trump’s 2nd Administration wholly coopted by the neocon wing of the GOP certainly wasn’t on my bingo card.



With that said, I knew all along that Trump’s profligate spending tendencies eventually would undermine his MAGA legacy. This ultimately is why Trumpism is doomed to fail.

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The neocons are the assholes wrecking everything. There’s no “far right.” The issues you care about are characterized as “far right” by neocons so that they may continue to warmonger, and they can ostracize people with opposing political views to the War Machine, Big Banks, and Big Business. These entities are equally as morally bankrupt as leftists, bc they are also leftists. Collectivism is the absolute devil. Neocon leftists are freaking globalists who want to live in the Tower of Babel. They are collectivists who regard the individual as having no value. The individual is inefficient. These institutions cannot be having anything slow them down, especially not some pesky individuals with needs and wants and hopes and dreams. To neocons, "individuals" are only useful as economic units for the good of the mythical "all." Neocons will crush an individual and wreck him just as easily and as quickly as any communist. I may just be a poor ole country lawyer, lady of a certain age, shouting into the wind on a message board. But I will continue to rage against it as long as there is breath in my body. My God and my country demand it of me.

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Neocons suck. They have inflicted more damage on the American Republic, the Constitution, and people around the world than just about any other group of suit and tie wearing heathens.

This Iran debacle will frick us hard. The only sliver of hope is Vance has been reported to be opposed, so he won’t be completely tainted when he runs for President against Newsom in two years. But I won’t be surprised if Vance is bluntly critical of this misadventure when he’s running and I won’t be surprised if Trump responds by trashing him on social media. I think there’s a real good chance this Iran clusterfrick brings us total Democrat control of the Congress along with President Newsom and Vice President Whitmer.

And it didn’t have to be this way. We were poised to take flight. Everything was lined up.

Even more depressing than the Revenge Of The Neocons is just how easily people are swayed and devolve back into twisted roided out like versions of war cheerleaders. There were actually people covering for our blowing up school kids in a thread with posts saying they had it coming or this can’t be avoided, it’s just collateral damage. Truly depraved stuff. There is a thread where people are hoping the fbi and cia illegally spy on Tucker Carlson and arrest him and put him in prison for saying bad things about the war; he’s a foreign op!!! These posters are actually turning into Peter Stzrock and John Brennan in real time. It’s abisurdly impressive.

I thought most people had had enough of neocons and uncertain unlimited military adventurism. I thought after 25 years of Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and countless other frick ups that bled out people and our money that people would have had enough.

But just drop a couple bombs, fire a few missiles, kill or kidnap a bad guy, and we’re back to freedom fries and frick yea ‘murica low level thought processes among a lot of people, many of whom were supposedly against events like we are in now or at least put forth that stance.

Oh well.

Jesus can't come back if brown people control his square of the desert thousands of miles away. That's really all there is to it.

Chart really should separate by 4 year terms. Misleading to show some bars as 4 vs others as 8.

Other than that, you’re right. People ate up the Medicaid / USAID red meat so eagerly that there was barely even any reaction to the holistically ridiculous GOP budget proposal in terms of the net.

How has Orange bad been anything like Bush

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I legit don't understand the necessity of this war, any more than I understood the necessity of the war in Iraq.

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Here is the thing - Kamala was such a poor choice for an opponent. You can complain about Trump, but in the end, you would have hated Kamala way more.

Trump knows this. Plus, he can't run again. Therefore, he has license to do whatever the frick he wants to do.

The jury is still out as to whether or not the attack on Iran will turn into an Iraq / Afghanistan sized fiasco. I don't think it will, but it is still early.

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I just want to know how it got to be that we're still stuck with George Bush.

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Same way we got stuck with Trump (GWBIII).