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re: How many conspiracy theories are true? Which conspiracies do you think are happening?

Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:39 am to
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:39 am to
ince WWII the US ceded away trading and economic advantages to bolster our trading partners -- globalism. Since WWII, our trading partners did what they could to seek self-advantage at US expense -- nationalism.

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Now that is not to say in a broader, global spectrum, EU nations, or Canada, Mexico, etc are/were entirely "nationalistic" per se, because it is difficult to be blatantly nationalistic, if you are heavily dependent on the good graces of a major competitor. China is discovering that in real time. But in a bilateral sense, it is to say they talked globalism in hopes to seek national advantage, while we employed it, regardless of national detriment.


Well put NC.

When it comes to trade, we controlled 50% of the worlds GDP at one point, its now 25%. I am happy that polls show Trump has finally focused the Americans on this issue...well all except IB....
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:47 am to
you don't care deeply enough about conspiracies one way or another to research. So I call BS on your thread. Why don't you edit your OP and just say nationalism is the deep state and you love globalism? and you want to get hate riled-up regarding Q?

Troll thread is 1 to 10. 10 being the best--the best score

a 3. You are improving but weak.

You saw by reading other threads you could start a.... Is Q real thread and get hate and sonic trips going. For this I say you are a POS and I hope others realize this and ignore your thread, because your goal is 30 pages of BS and hate...
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3140 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:52 am to
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I think carbon in the atmosphere has increased over the last few decades.

I even think there's some correlation between carbon in the atmosphere and tropospheric-level warming.



I was of the belief that all of this carbon actually exerts a cooling effect almost like a shade, and that reducing it would actually increase global temperature.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:52 am to
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So I call BS on your thread.


Yep, just a carrot in the offing.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68160 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 7:01 am to
I know why you starred this thread. You're feeling down in the dumps after your sweetheart lost, Trump's economy is smoking Obama's and Kavanaugh is on the Court. To make yourself feel better/superior you decided to start another thread to draw out the kooks and hope they snowball into entertaining ridiculousness.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39908 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 7:03 am to
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Why do all assassins have three names? John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, Mark David Chapman....Ruth Bader Ginsburg...


Christine Blasey Ford

Diane fricking Feinstein.

Checks out.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7649 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 7:07 am to
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I do believe that many of the conspiracy theories involving false flags are true, such as Pearl Harbor,


Wait, what? There is a false flag theory regarding Pearl Harbor?

Is it that the US was simply complicit while knowing what was about to occur, letting it happen?
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 7:21 am to
Here's the entertaining irony of it.

Conspiracy theory is nothing more than straying from Group Think. And where does Group Think formulate from? The mainstream media mostly. A mainstream media that Group Thinkers have come to realize is fake news.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 7:25 am to
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FT


She will never be your President
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81617 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 7:27 am to
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Are aliens still considered a conspiracy theory? I believe their existence and visitation to Earth should be considered common knowledge at this point.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 7:36 am to
I believe the CT that you're a actually a dude in drag but regret cutting your wiener off.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 7:42 am to
Why would a society that advanced want to visit this comparatively primitive shithole?

I do believe in UFOs. I know people who have seen them. But I believe they are our own creations - probably military - and not from some far away planet.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78496 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:07 am to
Second worst poster on board starts embarrassingly bad thread, cavalcade of downvotes and eye rolling ensues. You know how an FT thread is going to play out before he even starts it . Just embarrassing. Have you considered just sticking to chronic masturbation ? Something you can handle intellectually?
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:07 am to
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/true-government-conspiracies-2013-12

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9 Huge Government Conspiracies That Actually Happened
CHRISTINA STERBENZ



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Parts of the Gulf of Tonkin Incident, which led to U.S. intervention in Vietnam, never happened.

After evading a torpedo attack, the USS Maddox reportedly engaged three North Vietnamese boats in the Gulf of Tonkin on both Aug. 2 and 4, 1964, according to the Pentagon Papers. Although without U.S. casualties, the events prompted Congress to pass a resolution allowing President Lyndon John to intervene in the Southeast.

Talk of Tonkin’s status as a “false flag” for U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War has permeated public discourse almost since the time of the attacks, especially after the government admitted that the second incident may have involved false radar images.

But after resisting comment for decades, the National Security Agency finally declassified documents in 2005, admitting the incident on Aug. 4 never happened at all.

Those involved didn’t necessarily intend to cover-up the incident to propagate a war. But the evidence does suggest “an active effort to make SIGINT fit the claim of what happened during the evening of 4 August in the Gulf of Tonkin,”according to NSA historian Robert J. Hanyok.


Read more at https://www.businessinsider.com.au/true-government-conspiracies-2013-12#OilQIoFBRLTFTYsp.99



https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/02/vietnam-presidents-lie-to-wage-war-iraq

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When presidents lie to make a war
DD Guttenplan

Fifty years on we know the trigger for war with Vietnam was a fiction. Will it be another 50 before we know the truth about Iraq?
Sat 2 Aug 2014 05.00 EDT


Johnson - Gulf of Tonkin
Bush - WMDs

Same team/tactics
Victims are real/ sadly expendable...

I question motivation/intention/perceptions
When you do, things get strange...




Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68160 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:08 am to
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Why would a society that advanced want to visit this comparatively primitive shithole?
No clue. The self-important seem to think we have magically precious DNA they want to harvest. We are inconsequential.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260291 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:09 am to
I believe there's a shadow government.

I think there's global brazillionaires who are pulling most of the strings.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:09 am to


LINK

The CIA and the Hippie "resistance"...

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Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation

by Dave McGowan


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Here are a few examples of musicians from the hippie era, who have family ties to people within the U.S. Military:

Jim Morrison of "The Doors": His father was the U.S. Navy Admiral George Stephen Morrison[1]. Jim was more or less brought up on military bases and abused by his father.

Frank Zappa: Son of Francis Zappa, a mathematician and a chemist, working for the U.S. defense industry[2]. Frank himself, although one of those who was in the frontline of creating the Hippie Movement, never made it a secret that he had nothing but contempt for this culture. He was also a great supporter of the Vietnam War[3]. Frank was married to Adelaide Gail Sloatman, who comes from a "long line of career Naval officers, including her father, who spent his life working on classified nuclear weapons research for the U.S. Navy. Gail herself had once worked as a secretary for the Office of Naval Research and Development (she also once told an interviewer that she had “heard voices all [her] life”). Many years before their nearly simultaneous arrival in Laurel Canyon, Gail had attended a Naval kindergarten with “Mr. 'Mojo Risin’” himself, Jim Morrison (it is claimed that, as children, Gail once hit Jim over the head with a hammer). The very same Jim Morrison had later attended the same Alexandria, Virginia high school as two other future Laurel Canyon luminaries – John Phillips and Cass Elliott."[4].

"Papa" John Phillips of "The Mamas and the Papas": Son of a retired Marine Corps officer (Captain Claude Andrew Phillips)[5]. "John attended a series of elite military prep schools in the Washington, D.C. area, culminating in an appointment to the prestigious U.S. Naval Academy at Annapolis...John married Susie Adams, a direct descendant of ‘Founding Father’ John Adams. Susie’s father, James Adams, Jr., had been involved in what Susie described as “cloak-and-dagger stuff with the Air Force in Vienna,” or what we like to call covert intelligence operations. Susie herself would later find employment at the Pentagon, alongside John Phillip’s older sister, Rosie, who dutifully reported to work at the complex for nearly thirty years. John’s mother, ‘Dene’ Phillips, also worked for most of her life for the federal government in some unspecified capacity."[6]

Stephen Stills of "Buffalo Springfield" and "Crosby, Stills, Nash (and Young): Born to a Military family[7]. Stills was educated primarily at schools on military bases and at elite military academies.[8]

David Crosby of "The Byrds" and "Crosby, Stills, Nash (and Young)": "...the son of an Annapolis graduate and WW II military intelligence officer, Major Floyd Delafield Crosby. Like others in this story, Floyd Crosby spent much of his post-service time traveling the world. Those travels landed him in places like Haiti, where he paid a visit in 1927, when the country just happened to be, coincidentally of course, under military occupation by the U.S. Marines. One of the Marines doing that occupying was a guy that we met earlier by the name of Captain Claude Andrew Phillips"[9] (father of "Papa" John Phillips. Small world, Wes Penre's comment).

"Suffice it to say that the Crosby family tree includes a truly dizzying array of US senators and congressmen, state senators and assemblymen, governors, mayors, judges, Supreme Court justices, Revolutionary and Civil War generals, signers of the Declaration of Independence, and members of the Continental Congress. It also includes, I should hasten to add – for those of you with a taste for such things – more than a few high-ranking Masons. Stephen Van Rensselaer III, for example, reportedly served as Grand Master of Masons for New York. And if all that isn’t impressive enough, according to the New England Genealogical Society, David Van Cortlandt Crosby is also a direct descendant of ‘Founding Fathers’ and Federalist Papers’ authors Alexander Hamilton and John Jay."[10]

Jackson Browne: "...the product of a career military family. Browne’s father was assigned to post-war ‘reconstruction’ work in Germany, which very likely means that he was in the employ of the OSS, precursor to the CIA. As readers of my “Understanding the F-Word” may recall, U.S. involvement in post-war reconstruction in Germany largely consisted of maintaining as much of the Nazi infrastructure as possible while shielding war criminals from capture and prosecution. Against that backdrop, Jackson Browne was born in a military hospital in Heidelberg, Germany."[11]

Gram Parsons of "The Flying Burrito Brothers": "...was the son of Major Cecil Ingram “Coon Dog” Connor II, a decorated military officer and bomber pilot who reportedly flew over 50 combat missions."[12]

Jimi Hendrix of "The Jimi Hendrix Experience": "Hendrix was born on November 27, 1942, in Seattle, Washington, USA, while his father was stationed at an Army base in Oklahoma."[13]

Michael Jeffrey, Jimi Hendrix' Manager: Michael Jeffrey admitted to being an Intelligence Agent. Information was uncovered by Hendrix' biographers Harry Shapiro and Caesar Glebeek in their book, "Jimi Hendrix: Electric Gypsy; from rock historian R. Gary Patterson in his book, Hellbounds on Their Trail: Tales from the Rock ‘n’ Roll Graveyard"[14]; and from John McDermott and Eddie Kramer in their book, "Hendrix: Setting the Record Straight"[15




7 degrees of lizard people
Deal with it...
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:12 am to
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Are aliens still considered a conspiracy theory? I believe their existence and visitation to Earth should be considered common knowledge at this point.


Drive around here and report back...

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/ny-times-the-pentagons-mysterious-ufo-program---q-spin-off-for-aerospace-discussion/74223344/

Skeptical???
Comment on this "follow the money" query...


https://www.forbes.com/sites/kotlikoff/2018/07/21/is-our-government-intentionally-hiding-21-trillion-in-spending/#70894da84a73

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Jul 21, 2018,10:10 am
Is Our Government Intentionally Hiding $21 Trillion In Spending?
Laurence Kotlikoff


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The origin of our column was a report, released some nine months ago, by Mark and Catherine Austin Fitts. Catherine is a former (under Bush 1) Assistant Secretary of that the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD).Billions in unaccounted government transactions ($278.5 billion in 2015 alone!) emanating from HUD originally caught Catherine’s attention in 2000 in connection with subsequent responsibilities as lead financial advisor to the Federal Housing Administration (FHA). Catherine was unable to secure an explanation for HUD’s lost money and became concerned that something terribly inappropriate might be going on at HUD and DOD and in the related financial marketswithout the public’s knowledge. She has remained concerned for years and shared her concern with Professor Skidmore more than a year ago. From then till now, Fitts and Skidmore have repeatedly asked the DOD’s OIG to explain why it can’t account for trillions in apparent irregular if not illegal outlays. They’ve received no response whatsoever apart from acknowledging the requests.


YouTube

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Richard Dolan Show May 14, 2018.

Interview with Catherine Austin Fitts Richard Dolan SUBSCRIBE23K 82928 Published on May 20, 2018

#RichardDolan #Disclosure #PentagonBlackBudget

This episode of the Richard Dolan Show aired on KGRA radio May 14, 2018. It is a two-hour interview with black budget expert Catherine Austin Fitts, former Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development from 1989-1993. Included in the discussion is the recent analysis by Catherine and Dr. Mark Skidmore that $21 trillion has been spent by the U.S. government without authorization -- and is essentially missing. As Catherine points out, this is enough effectively to cancel the entire debt of the United States, and it is almost certainly a low estimate. Much more is discussed in this fascinating interview, including the likelihood that at least a portion of that money is connected to a clandestine infrastructure related to the subject of UFOs.

Richard Dolan is one of the world’s leading researchers and writers on the subject of UFOs, and believes that they constitute the greatest mystery of our time. He is the author of two volumes of history, UFOs and the National Security State, both ground-breaking works which together provide the most factually complete and accessible narrative of the UFO subject available anywhere. UFOs and the National Security State: Chronology of a Coverup, 1941-1973


In the interview she stated that for the longest time she could not figure out where the money was going.

She feels that it is financing off world projects...
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13494 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:16 am to
Psssst.

Conspiracy theories are a conspiracy. Quick put your tinsel pussyhat on!
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68160 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:17 am to
So a few famous musicians had parents in the military during a time when everyone had to register to serve two years. Big deal.
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