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How many conspiracy theories are true? Which conspiracies do you think are happening?

Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:29 am
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:29 am
Is it as simple as false accusations against Brett Kavanaugh, or as deep as lizard people organizing Sandy Hook so we won’t have guns? Is there a pedophile island? Has the Deep State grown, shrunk, or remained the same since Donald Trump took office?

I’m watching YouTube videos on the Q conspiracy right now. Are there some in particular that are must see?

See, I’m having this problem. President Trump approves of the USMCA, which is NAFTA, but with some genuinely good strokes locally for the United States. But does it work on a long term scale? I’m not certain, but I’m hesitant. The union concessions were good, but they lead very likely to more automation and fewer jobs in the long term. It’s complicated, and I’m not a fan of simple answers. There is no such thing as a simple solution to anything; not in a world that has so many moving parts and in which we play so large a role.

So how much of this is globalism, how much is nationalism, how much helps the United States, and how many pieces of it actually are part of something larger that we can’t see?
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:30 am to
Just one big one.
Posted by Adrift715
Phoenix
Member since Oct 2018
4 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:39 am to
I’ve always doubted the TWA 800 explaination. Pretty sure a mistimed naval sub demonstration for President Clinton was the real culprit there.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:46 am to
I think carbon in the atmosphere has increased over the last few decades.

I even think there's some correlation between carbon in the atmosphere and tropospheric-level warming.

I don't believe the above means we should give governments untold power and mandate premature technologies that will cause electricity prices to increase 100s of percent.

Apparently that makes me a conspiracy theorist.
Posted by PeakyeffinBlinder
Birmingham, England
Member since Sep 2018
83 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:47 am to
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FT


Actually wanting an actual discussion using facts? There is no way, not biting.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:55 am to
I think Gulf Of Tonkin was BS, it got us into Vietnam...
I think Israelis have a track record for disrupting public opinion, like the Libyan hit squad threats (even used as the antagonist in Back2theFuture)...
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118595 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:08 am to
The real colluder with Russia was Hillary and the DNC and Christine Ford is full of shite.
Posted by reverendotis
the jawbone of an arse
Member since Nov 2007
4867 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:36 am to
If Lee Oswald was the sole actor in the Kennedy assassination, I will eat both of my shoes.
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 1:37 am
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:38 am to
Don't be dumb and try to attribute all conspiracies touted by the chans as Q.

I'd check the Q thread to ask if any certain theory has gotten a Q mention.
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 1:38 am
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:39 am to
GHWB was in on that hit and on the scene that day. I fully believe it. Change my mind.
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 1:40 am
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:45 am to





CIA sent memos to 250 media outlets. That's right, bitch. There's a conspiracy theory about the phrase conspiracy theory
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6452 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 2:08 am to
It really depends on your definition of a conspiracy theory. If you consider a conspiracy theory to be when the actual truth differs from the official version of the story, then quite a few of them are true. There have been many conspiracy theories that have been proven true through the release of government documents and the actual people involved admitting it, which is why the people that dismiss all conspiracy theories are ignorant. There are many others, while not definitively proven, that are more plausible than the official story when looking at the big picture and not considering the event in isolation.

A lot of conspiracy theories get watered down by people trying to discredit them. The primary example is pizzagate. Those trying to discredit will say that since there was no basement the entire theory is bogus, when the pizza place is actually a very small part of the theory.

So, it is possible to have conspiracy theories that are generally true, even if certain proposed aspects are not. Many of these incidents are simply too convoluted to ever have 100% definitive proof, or even a 100% agreed upon theory.

Personally, I wouldn't consider the lies against Brett Kavanaugh to be a conspiracy theory. There were enough people in government calling it out as it happened.

I do believe that many of the conspiracy theories involving false flags are true, such as Pearl Harbor, the Lusitania, and the Gulf of Tonkin. Are aliens still considered a conspiracy theory? I believe their existence and visitation to Earth should be considered common knowledge at this point.

As far as Q and USMCA, I haven't done enough research to answer. Even if it is all hokum, I applaud the people willing to go down the rabbit hole and view things from a different perspective. Even if one theory turns out to not be true, it will help you to see inconsistencies and patterns in other events.
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 2:59 am to
Are you calling me a bitch?
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13290 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 3:11 am to
Why do all assassins have three names? John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, Mark David Chapman....Ruth Bader Ginsburg...
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 3:29 am
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11804 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 4:12 am to
Wow an FT post with some substance instead of a drive by troll!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123768 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 4:51 am to
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I’m not a fan of simple answers. There is no such thing as a simple solution to anything; not in a world that has so many moving parts
Simplicity of the answer is an erroneous focus. Simple answers may have complex derivation.
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So how much of this is globalism, how much is nationalism
Depends on the nation formulating the viewpoint.

Since WWII the US ceded away trading and economic advantages to bolster our trading partners -- globalism. Since WWII, our trading partners did what they could to seek self-advantage at US expense -- nationalism.

Now that is not to say in a broader, global spectrum, EU nations, or Canada, Mexico, etc are/were entirely "nationalistic" per se, because it is difficult to be blatantly nationalistic, if you are heavily dependent on the good graces of a major competitor. China is discovering that in real time. But in a bilateral sense, it is to say they talked globalism in hopes to seek national advantage, while we employed it, regardless of national detriment.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20347 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 5:53 am to
I think there is a conspiracy in you asking us what conspiracies we believe in.

Who do you work for, FT?

WHO DO YOU WORK FOR!?
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 8:28 am
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 5:58 am to
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How many conspiracy theories are true?


If a proposed conspiracy is true then it is not a conspiracy, it is fact. Right? That's like asking how many lies are the truth.
Posted by Doosh606
The DC
Member since Apr 2008
3232 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:06 am to
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Why do all assassins have three names? John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, Mark David Chapman....Ruth Bader Ginsburg...


You forgot Christine Blasey Ford...
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13290 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:36 am to
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You forgot Christine Blasey Ford.



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