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re: How can the pope vote?

Posted on 10/30/26 at 9:55 am to
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 10/30/26 at 9:55 am to
The pope is a moron, but you don't understand Separation of church and state. It was instituted to protect the church from the state, not the other way around and certainly not to keep Christians out of the government.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
46136 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 9:56 am to
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Catholic Threads Rule Political Talk

24/7

365

PT is Catholic Obsessed.


This is objectively false. I honestly don't remember the last time I saw a thread about Catholics on here. Why the frick are you trying to play a victim?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
47875 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Catholic Threads Rule Political Talk

24/7

365

PT is Catholic Obsessed.
That's quite the exaggeration. I'm always on the lookout for religious discussions here, and I don't recall any at all prior to this week for at least the last few months or so. I could have missed them, but these things tend to come in waves. Certainly not 24/7, 365.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
9058 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 9:57 am to
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If he is still a citizen of the US, why wouldn't he vote? Priests and reverends all over the country vote

None of the examples you give are also the head of a sovereign nation not named United States. It is a conflict of interests to have heads of other nations taking part in the elections of our country. Be they a US citizen or not.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
46210 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 9:57 am to
So you’d be ok if the pope was president?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
77344 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 9:59 am to
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Separation of church and state much?

I’m sorry but you can’t have it both ways.

This is pretty dumb, baw.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
6008 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 9:59 am to
Haven't you heard? We"ll let anyone vote.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
18237 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:00 am to
The separation of church and state doctrine certainly does not prevent an individual from voting.
The bigger question is whether he is registered to vote in Illinois.
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
6129 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:00 am to
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He is now a dual citizen.
He is more than a citizen of the Vatican City. He is the absolute monarch of a sovereign state.

Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
7401 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:01 am to
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Separation of church and state much?
How is it possible no one has a clue what this means? Our education system is a complete failure.
Posted by Cornpoptiger
Member since Oct 2018
971 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:01 am to
This guy isn't really a pope.
Posted by TrueTiger
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85023 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:02 am to
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He is more than a citizen of the Vatican City. He is the absolute monarch of a sovereign state.


Yes, and he is actually a tri-citizen, I forgot about Peru.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
9058 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:02 am to
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Separation of church and state much?

Wrong argument. As already pointed out, that would mean any head of church could not vote.

What makes the pope different is the Vatican City is a sovereign nation. He is the head of that nation. It is a conflict of interest to have heads of state, of foreign nations, voting in US elections at any level. That would be like letting Putin vote if he held dual citizenship.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
90487 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:02 am to
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Separation of church and state much?


You actually think priests and ministers don’t vote?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
85023 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:04 am to
I think voting of multi citizens in U.S. is a question worth exploring.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
60923 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:05 am to
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I'm not sure that as a head of state he can.


This is of those rarely-visited parts of the Constitution, so the confusion is understandable.

There is nothing in US law which says a US citizen cannot serve as a foreign head of state. There is also nothing which says doing so hampers their US citizenship, nor the rights which come from that, in any way.

Fun fact: Ecuadoran President Daniel Noboa holds dual US and Ecuadoran citizenship.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
90487 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:05 am to
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As much as I think the Pope is leading people to hell,


Oh, for Pete’s sake.
Posted by BayouBred1984
Member since Oct 2026
93 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:06 am to
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Oh, for Pete’s sake.

You seriously think this pope isn’t a dem plant put here by Satan to infiltrate the Catholic Church?


Interesting. Why not?
This post was edited on 10/30/26 at 10:08 am
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
90487 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:08 am to
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You seriously think this pope isn’t a dem plant out here by Satan to infiltrate the Catholic Church?


I don’t know if he is or isn’t.

But the poster I responded to is a Protestant zealot who seems to believe that all Catholics are headed to Hell regardless.
This post was edited on 10/30/26 at 10:10 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
9058 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:10 am to
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I think voting of multi citizens in U.S. is a question worth exploring

Depends on where loyalty lies. My wife still holds dual citizenship and I am seeking it for retirement. We are both very pro-America. We have discussed the very topic of should we vote once we become exPats. We will still be subject to US taxation. We will still be pro-USA(as well as Pro-Croatia). Should we lose our right to vote? We can both make arguments for both yes and no. Truthfully, I do not think it would bother us to lose that ability once we move permanently even though we will still be taxed by tUSA.
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