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re: Hospital stops Ivermectin even after a drop from 100% Vent to 50%..Wife goes back to court
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:21 pm to IslandBuckeye
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:21 pm to IslandBuckeye
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You will not be a good doctor. Your paradigm has petrified by your cult leaders.
This is the case.
It doesn't matter how much a doctor knows. Doctors that won't listen to their patients are dangerous.
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Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:40 pm to moneyg
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It doesn't matter how much a doctor knows. Doctors that won't listen to their patients are dangerous.
And doctors that will not objectively review primary literature will not truly be helping them. Grindboi has always demonstrated a closed mind.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:45 pm to Jjdoc
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Judge should have ordered on the spot. We have a law called RIGHT TO TRY.
Judge is not a doctor. They either have to find a doctor willing. Or force one to order it. Most judges will be very hesitant to do that.
I do t get the hesitancy to give ivermectin. Especially to a Covid patient that is fricked up and tubed anyway. There is some renal or liver toxicity with it. I can’t recall which. At high doses.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:47 pm to IslandBuckeye
Ahh being chastised by poliboard regulars. Definitely reaffirms I’m doing things right.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:50 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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So y’all are OK with judges being doctors now too?
I've been involved with hundreds forced medication/competency hearings.
The courts always defer to the doctor (expert) when making their ruling. I presume the same principles apply here. If so, and the judge made his decision arbitrarily, then the ruling is suspect.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 4:01 pm to moneyg
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It doesn't matter how much a doctor knows. Doctors that won't listen to their patients are dangerous.
Reminds me of the Indian ER doc on my local hospital that insisted on xrays and told me to take tylenol when I had muscle spasms in my back so bad I nearly crawled into the place.
I'd never had it happen before, or since, and his tylenol did absolutely nothing.
On a Monday I went in, in a wheelchair, doubling over at ever little bump and saw a family doc. When it hit me again just going to shake his hand he said "I know exactly what is wrong with you.". Prescribed some valium and within 10 hours I was able to function again.
Doctors that follow a strict plan set out by administrators are worthless. Was in agony for 4 days because of that clown.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 4:47 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:. The judge isn’t prescribing the meds dumbass, an actual doctor is. The hospital just refused to administer, so the judge made them.
So y’all are OK with judges being doctors now too?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 4:58 pm to East Coast Band
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Why are we playing politics with people's lives?
Why aren't we holding China responsible?
We aren't we willing to try anything
I will keep reminding everyone, to this day people on the left side of the political spectrum still refuse to speak out against China’s role in this ongoing pandemic. I wonder why?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 5:03 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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So y’all are OK with judges being doctors now too?
It wasn’t the doctor preventing it, dumbass, it was the hospital.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 5:13 pm to Crimson K
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The judge isn’t prescribing the meds dumbass, an actual doctor is. The hospital just refused to administer, so the judge made them.
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It wasn’t the doctor preventing it, dumbass, it was the hospital.
Lol good lord y’all have no clue what’s going on here
Posted on 9/6/21 at 5:19 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Yes we do. A hospital refused to give the patient Ivermectin. The family went out to find a Dr and did. The Dr prescribed it, yet the Hospital still refused to give administer it.
At the point, the family sued and won and the hospital allowed the patient's Dr to come in and administer it.
After 14 days, the Hospital blocked the Dr from doing this even though the results were a reduction in the use of the vent. From 100% to 50%.
At that point.. nothing else really matters. The Hospital is at fault. No rationale Dr would stop a treatment that is working. None. It's not ethical.
The family goes back to court where the Judge rules he can continue but must transfer to a different hospital that the Dr has privileges. That's a BS ruling. Period.
At the point, the family sued and won and the hospital allowed the patient's Dr to come in and administer it.
After 14 days, the Hospital blocked the Dr from doing this even though the results were a reduction in the use of the vent. From 100% to 50%.
At that point.. nothing else really matters. The Hospital is at fault. No rationale Dr would stop a treatment that is working. None. It's not ethical.
The family goes back to court where the Judge rules he can continue but must transfer to a different hospital that the Dr has privileges. That's a BS ruling. Period.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 5:23 pm to Jjdoc
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Remdesivir,
19% develop renal failure from Remdesivir and doctors will call it dying of COVID.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 5:25 pm to Jjdoc
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Yes we do.
Nah
Posted on 9/6/21 at 5:25 pm to tigerfoot
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I am as skeptical of the horse cream as anyone.
It's a pharmaceutical pill J.A.!!!!!!!
Posted on 9/6/21 at 5:25 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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So y’all are OK with judges being doctors now too?
Might as well. You guys just follow hospital administrators lock stock and barrel.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 5:31 pm to Jjdoc
The dude is going to fricking die. Giving him ivermectin is not going to save him according to the "doctors". So just give it to him. No harm no foul.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 5:52 pm to Crimson K
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The judge isn’t prescribing the meds dumbass, an actual doctor is. The hospital just refused to administer, so the judge made them.
Certain about that?
There was a doc willing to prescribe but an admin stopped it?
fricked up if true. Most admins are not MDs and if they are they’ve scaled back their clinical practice. So they’re rusty
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:03 pm to GumboPot
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The dude is going to fricking die. Giving him ivermectin is not going to save him according to the "doctors". So just give it to him. No harm no foul.
In all honesty, we all suspect why the doctors in West Chester aren't giving this patient Ivermectin. Besides the fact that they don't like being shown up by the patient and another doctor off-site, they are afraid that it will work. It's kind of strange how the human mind works, but as we read last week, India and Japan are fine with treating COVID with Ivermectin, even going so far as to say the data is irrefutable.
I am more in favor of nebulized food-grade H2O2 as a treatment, but I really can't see the harm in trying zinc, vitamin D, hydroxychloroquine, and ivermectin. Seems to be a good combo when administered early in the infection.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:13 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Nah
You sound perfect for the medical field. Show this to your malpractice carrier because they won’t insure your stupidity
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:16 pm to GumboPot
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The dude is going to fricking die. Giving him ivermectin is not going to save him according to the "doctors". So just give it to him. No harm no foul.
This is the sleight of hand here. The efficacy of these alternative protocols is displayed in their use as prophylactics or as early treatment regimens in combination with some other drugs.
This patient has been ill a long time and ivermectin is being prescribed late and as almost a last resort. He was expected to die and that would have been a highly publicized event demonstrating ivermectin doesn’t work and a vindication of the hospital’s administration, staff physicians, the CDC, and Dr. Fauci.
I’m partly convinced the patient’s uptick signaled a move to get him off of ivermectin by any means lest he recover and the changing storyline bite the hospital in the arse.
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