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re: Hospital stops Ivermectin even after a drop from 100% Vent to 50%..Wife goes back to court

Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by JawjaTigah
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:43 pm to
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What, no mention of lupus treatment…. Over 1.2 million Americans on ivermectin
I think it is HCQ that helps with lupus… and covid. But Neil Cavuto says it too will kill you if you try it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:10 pm to
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unusual verbiage? you think it's weird having young folks on vent with Covid. What kind of nurse are you?
Why is it folks feel that "nurse" is somehow an insulting medical invective? I don't get it. Tossing the term out in that manner is disrespectful, and downplays knowledge and dedication of a huge component of the medical community.

But since you chose to go there, your original post actually was odd.

It was odd because (1) Tube-fed meds are crushed, meaning (2) the odds of GI perforation d/t ulceration are infinitesimal with a med like ivermectin. Those are frankly not major risks. Citing them as such was strange.

The need to pause NGT suction allowing for absorption of tube meds does entail risk. There is a chance of GI fluid regurg and aspiration past a low pressure and/or leaking ETT cuff. Obviously aspiration in the face of CV19 ARDS would represent a critical complication.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 2:59 pm
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:20 pm to
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I think it is HCQ that helps with lupus…


Yep! Thanks. But that also helps with virtually zero side effects.
Posted by Houtexlandscape
Houston
Member since May 2018
622 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:35 pm to
Remdesivir is not good- Never use it- It will shut down your Kidneys and you will die. All these doctors will lose their license when it comes out. Ivermectin is the way to go.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:42 pm to
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All these doctors will lose their license when it comes out. Ivermectin is the way to go.
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Houtexlandscape
Any fertilizer recommendations?
Posted by LSUbest
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:58 pm to
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You are the only one making that point.

I’d say 98% hail the effectiveness of Regeneron.


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So you want to ALSO review clinical studies in people. For example, Remdesivir, a favorite of Big Pharma, a failure against Hepatitis and the Respiratory Syncytial Virus, worked in a test tube against Ebola. Still, when they tested it in people, it was a dud – just as many died in the placebo group as the Remdesivir group – about 53%. So they tested it against COVID-19. A small study with 541 patients getting Remdesivir versus 521 on placebo showed no statistical difference in death and a 24% rate of serious adverse events in Remdesivir; however, against all odds, the FDA approved the drug for emergency use against COVID-19.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:04 pm to
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Regeneron
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Remdesivir
I may be missing the point. But are you conflating REGN-COV2 Antibodies with Remdesivir the broad-spectrum "antiviral"?
Posted by LSUbest
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:06 pm to
I hope the hospital becomes Pete Lopez Memorial Hospital.
Posted by LSUbest
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:07 pm to
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I may be missing the point. But are you conflating REGN-COV2 Antibodies with Remdesivir the broad-spectrum "antiviral"?


Yes, I did.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:21 pm to
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I hope the hospital becomes Pete Lopez Memorial Hospital.
Yep.
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Memorial Hermann is unable to comment on pending litigation or specific cases due to patient privacy laws. ... Data currently available does not demonstrate that ivermectin is safe ... Outside of ongoing clinical trials, the FDA, CDC and WHO discourage the use of ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19.
It certainly seems to me Memorial Hermann was able to comment, and to put a foot in its mouth in the process.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19570 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:28 pm to
Ivermectin works. I have seen it firsthand.
Many drugs are used off label for a variety of ailments.
My aunt had her life extended by taking viagra for COPD.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:36 pm to
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Yes, I did.

Yeah, I'd really like to see a double-blinded ivermectin vs remdesivir study. Won't happen though. Big Pharma would turn the study authors and any backing institutions into funding pariahs.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:49 pm to
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My aunt had her life extended by taking viagra for COPD.

Is that what she told you? Maybe putting the "D" in COPD?

j/k

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Believe it or not, viagra (PDE-5's) for treatment of pulmonary hypertension is actually not even off-label. e.g., If you tell your doc, you are planning a mountain climb at altitude and need pulmonary edema prophylaxis, he'll fix you up.
Posted by HabaneroBuck
Up a ways.
Member since Oct 2020
1359 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:39 pm to
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I am more in favor of nebulized food-grade H2O2 as a treatment


What's this, and how is it done?


Article with discussion of Hydrogen Peroxide treatment.

Safe and common-sense approach to upper respiratory infection. I haven't personally needed it for COVID, so I can't personally attest to it, but it is something I would try first...I already have a nebulizer.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:52 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 5:56 pm
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8440 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:20 pm to
Hydrogen peroxide

So Trump was right.

Just FYI, when he was president iPhone would capitalize his name. Not any more but the capitalize biden
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 7:44 pm to
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So y’all are OK with judges being doctors now too?

I've read your posts on here, and I'm not OK with you being a doctor, so ...
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