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Crimson K
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So what's your explanation for why the Big Ten is dominant over the SEC in the NIL era
Holy hell man. I have repeatedly said that the Big 10 has and is spending more money in the NIL era. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with it from a rules perspective either. I just took issue with the notion that Big 10 teams weren’t paying before. It’s a weak excuse for why the SEC dominated. My saying that NIL potentially being capped would hurt the Big 10 goes hand in hand with this. Big 10 teams (at the least the few that are willing to pay big $) are successful because they can outbid for transfers, and since the tampering stuff is going on everywhere, they can get more developed players who want to cash in or target specific HS players they feel are can’t miss. It’s a smart way to handle this window of opportunity. Calling the ability to outspend other teams a more level playing field is a little silly though. If there were something like a salary cap, Big 10 teams wouldn’t be able to poach nearly as much as they currently are.
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Here's the bottom line. You want to cling to some fantasy that the SEC wasn't cheating more with illegal payments. I'll never convince you otherwise. Fine.
Why can’t you address the simple question why you believe Big 10 teams weren’t cheating on a large scale? You have sidestepped this repeatedly. I’ve give you some links.
Player claims OSU gave him cash and cars.
MSU recruiting violations
Fab 5 improper benefits scandal
This is from like 2 minutes of searching. It’s why I am unwilling to let your BS claim slide. The Big 10 has a long history of scandals going back over 30 years. They also consistently received lighter punishments when caught.
I’ve never argued that SEC teams are wealthier, though endowments don’t really have much to do with athletic department and booster spending. Why do you believe the Big 10 couldn’t compete before the NIL and unlimited transfer era? I have just given you receipts that they have been cheating. You have to pretty much say that the schools were too dumb to cheat. Why do you think they have to overpay to get talent today?
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I'm all for NIL caps for the sake of parity. But let's not pretend the SEC has equal financial resources to the Big Ten
If this happens, the Big 10 will see its success fall off quickly.
I asked you to back up the assertion. I asked you point blank if you thought the actually competitive Big 10 teams like OSU, Michigan, and Penn State weren't illegally paying money for recruiting. Is that your assertion?
When you make a claim, then fail to back it up, then demand someone else refute your claim, that is a well known debating sidestep. Disprove my assertion or it must be true is a junior high level talking point. HOWEVER, I'll answer your question. I am sure SEC teams were dropping bags. I might even be willing to say that more SEC teams were willing to do so. I think it is absolutely ridiculous to think that it was on a level way higher than the big name teams in other conferences. Your issue is that you want to assume that the Big 10 only lost because they weren't cheating. They had some natural disadvantages, but the Ohio States of the world still managed to get 5 star players from the South to places like Columbus. It is a plainly nonsensical logical argument.
Now they have the biggest advantage possible with more money to spend. You have been reinforcing that very idea. There is actual data to back this up. Are you claiming that Big 10 schools couldn't figure out paying players before, or are you willing to die on the hill that they just had too much integrity?
Somehow, you have equated being able to purchase the best players for championships today to mean that all previous champions had to have been paying more too. You can't show that. That's why I and anyone else can and should question your claim.
When you make a claim, then fail to back it up, then demand someone else refute your claim, that is a well known debating sidestep. Disprove my assertion or it must be true is a junior high level talking point. HOWEVER, I'll answer your question. I am sure SEC teams were dropping bags. I might even be willing to say that more SEC teams were willing to do so. I think it is absolutely ridiculous to think that it was on a level way higher than the big name teams in other conferences. Your issue is that you want to assume that the Big 10 only lost because they weren't cheating. They had some natural disadvantages, but the Ohio States of the world still managed to get 5 star players from the South to places like Columbus. It is a plainly nonsensical logical argument.
Now they have the biggest advantage possible with more money to spend. You have been reinforcing that very idea. There is actual data to back this up. Are you claiming that Big 10 schools couldn't figure out paying players before, or are you willing to die on the hill that they just had too much integrity?
Somehow, you have equated being able to purchase the best players for championships today to mean that all previous champions had to have been paying more too. You can't show that. That's why I and anyone else can and should question your claim.
Major infractions from your link:
Southeastern Conference (98)
Big Ten Conference (89)
Big 12 Conference (91)
Atlantic Coast Conference (75)
SEC is at the top at 10% more than the Big 10, and 7% more than the Big 12, but how does this show that the SEC was paying more?
These are not all recruiting related.
Southeastern Conference (98)
Big Ten Conference (89)
Big 12 Conference (91)
Atlantic Coast Conference (75)
SEC is at the top at 10% more than the Big 10, and 7% more than the Big 12, but how does this show that the SEC was paying more?
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The SEC has had the most recruiting infractions.
These are not all recruiting related.
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This must be what it is like to try and "prove" to Greg McElroy that we did indeed go to the moon. Let's look at some data points shall we?
You really think this is a zinger, don’t you? It’s an argument to the absurd, which often introduces an argument with little merit.
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1. How many SEC teams have been busted for infractions in the last 50 years? Look it up
So your answer to provide the receipts for your claim is look it up. I can’t wait for you to hit me with “it’s not my job to provide the proof for my assertions, just trust me bro.”
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2. Let's look at the culture. The SEC cares about winning only . The Big Ten actually requires that all of their schools are members of the AAU indicating a certain level of academics. See point 1.
So the SEC only cares about winning, but the Big 10 has academic integrity, so this proves cheating. Can you see the absolute disconnect in this logic, ESPECIALLY considering that your assertion is that the Big 10 will spend more money now? It is extra funny considering how Big 10 teams have multiple instances of real world criminal activity related to sports programs.
So now the Big 10 cares about winning because they can pay players, but before they were just academic bastions. Do you not remember “We don’t come to play school?” I’m sure all the 5 stars were just flocking to that AAU accreditation.
You assert that SEC schools were allowed to get away with paying players, so that is why they won, but then go on to say they get busted for paying players more. It takes a special kind of smart to argue against yourself.
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3. Finally, who has been winning since NIL made paying players legal?
This was not in question. Stating A in no way proves B. This is akin to me saying that the SEC winning championships proves they didn’t cheat.
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In detail, tell how it was “unequal cheating” before. We’re all those big brains up north incapable of coming up with paying under the table? Or are you suggesting that they were all pure as the snow? You keep making the claim. Back it up, big boy.
If you think the SEC was not cheating more than other power conferences, you must get your same news from wherever Greg McElroy gets his news
So it’s just an assertion with no proof. Nice. I should definitely take message board guy D3Fan’s word for it. The modern NIL era shows that pretty much any player will chase the bigger bag. How do you think OSU, Oregon, Penn State et al were getting big time players from the south during the earlier era, my man?
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Everyone can equally cheat now
In detail, tell how it was “unequal cheating” before. We’re all those big brains up north incapable of coming up with paying under the table? Or are you suggesting that they were all pure as the snow? You keep making the claim. Back it up, big boy.
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Your argument is working off the assumption that the SEC wasn't outpaying others in the past
Ok, you are working under the assumption that they were. You haven’t given any proof at all. The flex that Big 10 schools have richer alums and can outspend in the NIL era doesn’t equate in any way to showing that SEC schools were outspending before. Southern schools had natural advantages. Come right out and say that you believe that the talented rosters UM had at OSU were not in any way bought and paid for. It’s a laughable assertion.
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B1G fans are saying once the playing field is more even, they are winning
How is richer donor bases spending more money a more level playing field?
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by Crimson K on 4/7/26 at 10:43 am to lsupride87
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Problem is that means the truth would be the SEC was cheating more before
Proximity to more talent, better coaches and more investment in facilities. Those three things were the keys. Was there pay? Absolutely, but it was everywhere and the three keys all tilted talent to the South. It is hard to imagine any kid choosing the frozen North over the Southern climate closer to home with any financial incentive being roughly equal.
Now the bags up North are a lot heavier. The Bryce Underwood situation is a really clear example. It took a blockbuster offer, but UM was willing to fork out the money because they have a donor who could bankroll.
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Do you feel as if it was college sports when only certain schools were allowed to pay for players and not get penalized for it? This is the fallout from the bullshite that happened for years
Big 10 teams were often punished significantly less than others. Is it honestly your feeling that the OSU's and Michigan's of the world weren't paying players?
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The SEC used to pay players more. NIL brought this all out into the open now that paying players is legal
This argument is dumb. Big 10 schools paid players, Pac 10 schools paid players, Big 12 schools paid player, and yes SEC schools paid players. Every single conference had under the table payments and bagmen. Most of the best players chose to stay closer to home. AND the SEC invested more in facilities, coaching, and player support. Because all the under the table pay was limited by how much you could get away with without it being completely obvious, the deciding factors for many athletes were proximity, climate and off the field amenities.
Now the Big 10 can outspend others. You are making that very argument by saying they are wealthier. It's not more "fair," it's just a willingness and ability to spend more. The QB at UM didn't go to Michigan for any other reason than the $12million dollars he got. Same with the Bball transfer from UAB. Michigan worked the system to their credit and bought championships.
re: Snowflake Nate
Posted by Crimson K on 4/4/26 at 10:49 am to GeauxBreauxs
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Snowflake
Criticize the guy all you want, but you don’t seem to understand this word.
Most of the comments I have heard weren’t about her looks. It was more don’t say something stupid and antagonistic to your fanbase.
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gonna be tough to pull off in live action
Seems like it’ll need a LOT of CGI. All the aliens, dungeon monsters, magic spells, crazy settings plus Princess Donut as a main. Story has been really fun, but casting is going to need to be spot on. Really curious who could voice the AI.
If it’s successful, they already have 7books to work with and another coming out pretty soon. The author has been absolutely cranking them out, so no GoT issues either (damn I hope I didn’t jinx it). Poor guy playing Carl is going to have a decade wearing nothing but boxers.
re: Invincible S4 Discussion (New Ep Wednesdays)
Posted by Crimson K on 4/2/26 at 8:10 am to LordSaintly
Our boy, Mark, can take a beating with the best of them. You could say he has a lot of guts. IYKYK.
So is this set before the Superman movie? Dog looks like a puppy. Is this told in flashback?
I wonder what success means to Disney. I don’t think it’s gong to hit a billion dollars or anything, but if Favreau gets to tell his story it could be decent. Honestly, the hype meter is pretty low in my household at least.
re: Harry Potter | HBO series | Teaser Trailer
Posted by Crimson K on 3/26/26 at 11:51 pm to WicKed WayZ
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You got all that from a two minute teaser? Just frick off and go bitch somewhere else.
This would hit a little harder if you didn’t have a post talking about how much heart and soul were poured into this just a couple of posts earlier.
As an HP fan, it looks OK. Some good and some bad. Outside of the obvious with Snape, Hagrid looks good, but sounds off. Too gentle and soft spoken. No good looks at Hogwarts. If the blonde kid is Malloy, he looks well cast. Would have loved to have heard a little from Hermione. All the kids are going to have to overcome the cemented mental picture of the previous cast. Not sold on Harry or Ron, but hopefully they nail it.
Dumbledore looked great. Definitely prefer his look to the later movie version.we will see how Lithgow does with a Brit accent. I do think the concern of casting that old is going to be an issue if this is a 15 year run to cover all books.
Olivander and what I assume was McGonnegal were OK, but the glimpse of each was too short to really judge. I hope they take the time to introduce s9me of the other Diagonal Alley characters like Fortescue.
Curious about the other kids like Seamus, Dean, Neville et al. Also, the rest of the Weasley clan; seems like there was just a brief shot of Molly.
I want it to be good, but I have some reservations. I was really dubious about Fallout, and to me Amazon has knocked that outta the park. Maybe HBO will do the same.
re: National Championship: Michigan (-6.5) vs UConn Monday 7:50 PM Central
Posted by Crimson K on 3/26/26 at 10:06 pm to Recognizable Poster
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If Arkansas is going to come back they need Acuff to take over the game
That’s how it looks. Guy is the best player on the floor. Hit him with an IV at half and let him play every second of the second half in high gear.
re: Why aren’t we treating North Korea like we are Iran?
Posted by Crimson K on 3/26/26 at 4:55 pm to sorantable
It’s pretty much because they already have a nuclear arsenal as you said in the OP. Weird that the Clinton deal from the 90s to avoid nukes for NK didn’t hold up.
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