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re: Fraud Should Always Be Prosecuted - But Access to Childcare is Vital to the Economy

Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:20 am to
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27884 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:20 am to
Your argume seems to be similar to the lefts talking points on immigration.

It's not LEGAL immigration people are upset over. It's 10s of millions of ILLEGAL aliens that we have a problem with. We want daycare programs to be legitimate.

We get that scammers will try to game the system. But $9B in Minneapolis? That is almost certainly the result of a corrupt local/state government allowing it to happen because they want that federal money coming into their local economies - by crook or by hook. Whether they knew it was happening or just allowed it to happen by looking the other way, the result is the same.

Don't blame this administration. Blame the local government for allowing MASSIVE fraud to happen. We should all insist that safeguards are in place to prevent the Fraud and protect the future viability of the programs.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23264 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:20 am to
Having a mother and father at home is the heart and lungs to an economy.

Go ahead, chase the money.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
4269 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:21 am to
quote:

But don’t fall victim to talking points condemning daycare unless you want a vastly different economy.


K, keep us posted.

Access to childcare is not so vital as to tolerate fraud & corruption.

Look at Healthcare, an industry even MORE vital - it's chock full of compliance & standards, many of which CANNOT be compromised for the safety of the patient.

Childcare will always need plenty of oversight. And now, thanks to this story, it will probably need EVEN MORE oversight
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
3499 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:21 am to
you know what else would drop? Federal Income Taxes, that's what. Now state and local taxes may increase, but people have more control of what they're financing andd a closer eye on where their money is going.
People closer to an issue have a better chance of resolving the issue.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97037 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:23 am to
You are a dirty leech. Childcare isn't guaranteed like freedom.

You figure it out as a parent and don't require a crutch from the govt.
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
2138 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:27 am to
Quit trying to conflate a brazen fraud scheme involving dim-commie politicos in Minnesota and corrupt to their core Somalis with a legitimate daycare business.

You are too stupid to understand that what those people did in Minnesota has damaged the child care industry. And honest people would be doing everything in their power to distance themselves from the Minnesota scumbags.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
50064 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:29 am to
quote:

RFK


Nobody is anti-daycare, you stupid fool.

Why can't you simply admit that the fraud exists, it's rampart, and it's overwhelmingly taking place in blue states and coordinated by the Left that you align yourself with?

I keep waiting for you to post something which contains at least a shred of honesty.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38423 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:30 am to
quote:

But Access to Childcare is Vital to the Economy
Absolutely. But if you can't afford to care for your children without subsistence, for the Grace of God don't have them until you can. Easy planning if you think about it.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63089 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:35 am to
quote:

RFK


I feel sorry for you.

It’s sad that you spend/waste so much time posting something like that. The sad pet is that you must have convinced yourself that you get something out if it.

Value in trolling? That’s pathetic.

Pushing your insane worldview? The lack of impact is pathetic.

I hope you find real happiness in this world somewhere.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5899 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:36 am to
Babysitting your kids does not constitute as a daycare that should receive subsidies. These programs are a great gift to many but when those scums abuse it they destroy it for everyone until it can be cleaned up. I think at this point we learned that every single welfare and government subsidy program is being milked to the core with fraud. Not even sneaky fraud. Blatant frick you we don't care fraud.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3006 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:46 am to
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My wife would not have been able to pursue her professional career without access to childcare, and many of the daycares we relied on when our children were infants and toddlers were small, neighborhood businesses supported by these subsidies.


Let us know when you and your wife have reimbursed the treasury for your share of the subsidies that you took advantage of. Then I'll give you an upvote.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59297 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:48 am to
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I have seen rhetoric condemning childcare as if that’s the problem


No you haven't, you've seen people condemning the fraud but you don't like it because it's turning out that a LOT of the childcare centers in MN (at least the Somali ones) are nothing more than money-grabs. Because of the size and scope of that fraud, people are questioning the real (versus perceived) amount of need for so many childcare centers.

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167571 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:50 am to
Gfy Polly When did you get a Wife?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:53 am to
quote:

Continue to prosecute fraud. But don’t fall victim to talking points condemning daycare unless you want a vastly different economy.


Thanks RFK for posting this. We didn't use daycare. I had no idea that subsidies were necessary for them to exist.

Of course, I'm going to fact check you....

ETA: Here was the bottom line for ChatGPT...

6. Bottom line
Childcare cannot simultaneously be:
High-quality
Affordable to parents
Fairly paid for workers
Privately self-sustaining
You can pick two without subsidies.
You can pick all four only with them.
So in practical, real-world terms:
Yes—subsidies are necessary for daycares to exist at scale in the United States.
This post was edited on 1/20/26 at 8:56 am
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11858 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:59 am to
If only there was a way for parents to raise their own children....
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19542 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:21 am to
[quote]My wife would not have been able to pursue her professional career without access to childcare/quote]

So you are unable to provide for your wife and children? Got it.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30164 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:21 am to
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RFK




Such a good little party soldier
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27884 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:32 am to
You're a week late. The topic this week is ICE Nazis invading Minneapolis. MN Government officials were losing the argument on daycare fraud racism, so they have changed the subject to ICE Nazi racism.

Apparently, you didn't get the memo...
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47623 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:34 am to
If a daycare needs 1 million dollars per year in taxpayer money to function, they are fraudulentt
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14073 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:41 am to
quote:

I have seen rhetoric condemning childcare as if that’s the problem (opposed to criminals who abuse the system).


Link?

quote:

Improving access to childcare through government subsidies has a profound impact on the economy.


If something needs a government subsidy to survive, it shouldn't survive.

quote:

Expanded access to childcare has also fundamentally transformed women’s participation in the workforce. This both strengthens the overall economy and allows women to pursue meaningful, fulfilling careers.


Not every lifestyle is for everyone. The idea that everyone is entitled to everything is where this country went off the rails.

quote:

Continue to prosecute fraud.


Can argue they haven't even began to prosecute fraud yet, that's part of the problem.
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