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re: Florida Legislature advances Constitutional amendment abolishing property taxes
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:31 am to loogaroo
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:31 am to loogaroo
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You don’t go from one hanging chad to a solid red state in 20 years. Especially with liberal snowbirds moving there in hordes.
Some of the polls and surveys on the snowbirds show that many of those fleeing the the NE and Cal are more on the conservative side of the political spectrum leaving a more monolithic pile of leftists in the "blue" states.
There is some serious stratification going on.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:32 am to loogaroo
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Who would have guessed the cheating was that bad. You don’t go from one hanging chad to a solid red state in 20 years. Especially with liberal snowbirds moving there in hordes.
The florida senate was 25/40 red after 98... my first election. Today we're at 28/40. We saw 28 in 2010, and it slowly drifted down to 23 in 2018.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:33 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Property taxes never made sense to me. It almost feels like you don’t even own your property when you pay it off because you got to pay tax on it yearly.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:33 am to Auburn1968
Florida got more red during Covid.
Yankee conservatives escaped oppressive rules.
I like this property tax thing. It’s going to help me big time.
Yankee conservatives escaped oppressive rules.
I like this property tax thing. It’s going to help me big time.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:03 am to Aubie Spr96
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Modern day serfdom. Not sure how we ever allowed it to happen.
by 1796 15 of the 16 states had a property tax the concept of taxing property goes back 6000 years.
here's what has actually changed the entitled middle class no longer pay's income tax, now they don't want to pay property taxes. here's the good news since gen z and millennials will never own homes they'll never have to worry about paying property taxes.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:05 am to Django Unchained
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I wish hot wheels here in Texas would follow the DeSantis playbook.
And I wish our lesbian, Granny Clampett would do the same.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:12 am to captainFid
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I wish hot wheels here in Texas would follow the DeSantis playbook.
And I wish our lesbian, Granny Clampett would do the same.
Same here for our MiniMe DJT wannabe.
They like to cut taxes on businesses, but they end up raising taxes on residents.
I saw that Lafourche Parish lost nearly 100 million dollars in assessable property. That is why this season of millage renewals, the millage rates are trending upward even without asking for it, and voters are shooting them down like shooting clays.
So any shift in assessments, the politicos theoretically end up raising property taxes on the rest of the property taxpayers.
So while, DeSantis may have lessen taxes on homeowners, the tax burden will shift to homes valued at over 250k, second homes, and businesses that pay property tax. If Florida has similar laws like Louisiana, those property taxes will be adjusted upwards to collect a comparable amount of money without a second vote.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 10:44 am
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:12 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Desantis is killing it again! 
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:52 am to MoarKilometers
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No, they can't. We can't even suspend our gas tax... let alone pay for new schools for all these carpetbaggers ron is importing.
FL Tax Revenue:
• 2021: ~$38.5B
• 2022: ~$47.0B
• 2023: ~$49.7B
• 2024: ~$50.5B
• 2025: ~$51.0B
I’d be asking your county officials what the issue is because if they can’t figure out how to handle their finances with an extra $13B over 5 years (34% increase) they’re the problem.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:55 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
The local news has different Fat Dems on every day, wailing about the loss of "Muh services". There is still absolutely zero talk of cutting expenses.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:56 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Florida's population has already been growing, it's about to hit another gear
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:08 pm to Don Quixote
Second homes and homes belonging to non-residents are expected to pick up the slack. The figure I had seen was homes under $500k pay no property taxes under this new plan.
Today is the second day of the three day special session, called specifically to get this done.

Today is the second day of the three day special session, called specifically to get this done.

Posted on 6/2/26 at 2:38 pm to Oddibe
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Why should the government NOT make cuts during a recession? Every individual who has a reduction in income is forced to make financial decisions based on funds available. Why shouldn’t the government be forced to do the same thing?
The point isn’t that they shouldn’t make cuts. More of being aware of the effects.
School budgets are the biggest portions of property tax bills. People love their nice school districts. If the budgets are cut, either teacher pay is cut or number of teachers is cut, meaning more students in classrooms per teacher.
It’s a direct cause and effect. Property taxes help buffer swings because they’re ad valorem.
I’m not telling people what they should believe about taxes, just bringing to the surface potential unintended consequences of abolishing property taxes.
Also, if you do away with property taxes, are you okay with toll roads? If not, how do folks propose paying for that infrastructure?
Posted on 6/2/26 at 2:43 pm to tide06
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I’d be asking your county officials what the issue is because if they can’t figure out how to handle their finances with an extra $13B over 5 years (34% increase) they’re the problem.
Point out the counties that have reduced millage rates in that period. I strongly suspect you'll go 0 for 67. As we currently sit, 65 of the 67 counties already charge tax additional to the state sales tax. So you better live in citrus or collier county, or ask yourself why your county officials struggle with the same problem the other 95.5% have.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 2:50 pm to MoarKilometers
You’re seriously arguing that a state that increased its revenue $18B (34%) in 5 years can’t eliminate some of its property taxes with the right plan?
Now they need to ensure that the tax revenues that increased find their way back to the counties that are losing revenue to ensure they aren’t adversely impacted, but that’s a measure of the quality of the plan not the mathematical possibility of it occurring.
Now they need to ensure that the tax revenues that increased find their way back to the counties that are losing revenue to ensure they aren’t adversely impacted, but that’s a measure of the quality of the plan not the mathematical possibility of it occurring.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 3:16 pm to tide06
might finally make the move what a great idea for retirees
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:13 pm to tide06
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You’re seriously arguing that a state that increased its revenue $18B (34%) in 5 years can’t eliminate some of its property taxes with the right plan?
This is still the same budget that leaves us with a 1.5 and 6.6 billion shortfall next 2 years, right? If yes, then no.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:15 pm to JCdawg
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If something like this passes and other red states follow suit, you're literally going to have east and west Germany all over again.
What a great way to describe it!
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:03 pm to MoarKilometers
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This is still the same budget that leaves us with a 1.5 and 6.6 billion shortfall next 2 years, right? If yes, then no.
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Florida operates with a balanced budget and maintains substantial reserves. There is no current deficit.
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Reserves total $14.6–15.7 billion (including the Budget Stabilization Fund/“Rainy Day Fund” at ~$4.9 billion, unallocated General Revenue, and other funds).
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State government debt: Around $15.4 billion total, or roughly $681 per resident.
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ranks among the lowest (often 47th–50th) in per capita state debt.
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Tax-supported debt has been actively paid down (goal of 50% reduction by FY 2027-28; already ~48.7% by end of FY 2025-26).
The state of FL is by far the best run in the entire nation from a fiscal standpoint.
-There are surpluses nearly every year
-debt per capita is at the lowest levels for any major state
-50% of state debt is projected to have been paid off by end of FY 25-26
-$16B in reserves
The shortfalls you reference are only if a few current items aren’t adjusted some of which are related to paying down that debt.
You're letting your political hangups blind you to objective reality.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:09 pm to MoarKilometers
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This is still the same budget that leaves us with a 1.5 and 6.6 billion shortfall next 2 years, right? If yes, then no.
Trust me, the state can afford it. Florida might be the one state that can go without income taxes and property taxes.
A ton of houses here in the state are second homes/vacation homes or investment properties. Based off what I've seen, the proposal doesn't fully eliminate property taxes. There will still be property taxes for schools, everything else just goes away.
Also, homes above $500,000 aren't eligible. Democrats should like that, as it's the rich paying their fair share. And I won't lie, I'm okay with people who have homes over $500,000 still paying property taxes.
Especially in Central Florida and South Florida, you have many communities where probably 40% of the homes are second homes/vacation homes or investment homes. Combine that with homes over $500,000, you'll still have probably close to half the homes in most communities still paying property taxes at some level.
With the extra income, people will spend more, which means more sales tax revenue. My county is one of the lower counties in terms of sales tax at 7.5%. They tried to pass a half penny increase a few years ago but we voted it down decisively. If they eliminate property taxes though, I would be in favor of them raising it to 8.5% (state maximum). Since sales tax is a consumption tax, it's fair and if I don't like, I can cut back on consumption.
But especially here in Florida, a higher sales tax means the tourists pay more of the tax burden. Tourists here put an incredibly high strain on our infrastructure. When it's outside of season, it's amazing for example how much lighter some of the roads are (of course it can still be bad, just not fully stopped). Why should locals be paying for all the repairs and damage that tourists and snow birds cause?
Florida has relatively low taxes on tourists. Raise the sales tax to 8.5% and maybe implement an additional tourist tax, and the state could easily get back most of what it loses in property tax revenue. It really wouldn't be that difficult, and as a Florida resident I absolutely support DeSantis on this. Property taxes should have always been illegal. And doing this takes the tax burden from mostly local residents to at least a mix of both residents, tourists and snow birds paying.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 5:17 pm
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