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re: Elon Musk doubles down on ‘pro-Putin’ tweets after challenge from Lindsey Graham

Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Mr Musk responded to the senator and said “some eastern portions” preferred Russia and that the “will of the people matters”.

“Assuming you believe that the will of the people matters, we should, in any given conflict region, support the will of those who live there,” Mr Musk replied.

“Most of Ukraine unequivocally wants to be part of Ukraine, but some eastern portions have Russian majorities and prefer Russia,” he added.
How is that pro-Putin?
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14647 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:55 pm to
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We’re just providing support so that Russia doesn’t get into the practice of invading and conquering other countries in Europe.


Lol
Pretty naive there.
Putin has told us why he’s doing what he’s doing.
USA doesn’t give a flying frick about Ukraine overall.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
50874 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:04 pm to
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California prefers socialist and communist policies as a whole...would you be ok with a country invading and us allowing them to be annexed as a solution to the war???


lol
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:12 pm to
I would say Miss Lindsey can eat a bag of dicks, but he’d enjoy it.
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5721 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:13 pm to
I love the framing here "pro-Putin". Biden had to practically threaten Zalinsk behind closed doors not to offer a peace deal which included territorial concessions. I guess Zalinsky is pro-Putin too.

I hate the US media.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13415 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:13 pm to
America doesn’t need to give Russia anything to stop the war.

The war stops the week America stops sending money to Ukraine.

American and Ukrainian politicians will keep the war going as long as there is money to be stolen.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:15 pm to
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We wouldn't have sent military aid if we wanted it to end or avoid said suffering.
Bingo!

I remember how the Viet Nam War, er, "Police Action" excuse me, ended.

It ended when Congress cutoff the funding. As in the very next day, poof!

The old adage about feeding strays still rings true across the globe. If Congress keeps feeding this dog called Invasion of Ukraine it'll stay hot. Once they cut the funds THEN the paperwork gets done (peace treaty/agreement).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465707 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:15 pm to
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and from an international law point of view, everything that he did is perfectly legal.


WUT



quote:

But they didn’t bomb civilians. They bombed Nazis. Good for them.

OH, ok

I'm so glad that propaganda has died on here (for the most part).
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40889 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:17 pm to
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What about if an ethnic minority in a region of the US decided to be independent of America? We should just let them? 

Funny how little the "muh democracy" crowd actually believes in it.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18129 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:21 pm to
They want to use ww2 era restrictions and censorship. Anything that isn't 100% positive in favor of Ukraine is labeled as pro-Russia. It's nonsensical considering we're not officially at war with Russia, our troops aren't on the ground. Talking about it from a neutral perspective is in no way demoralizing to our citizens or military.

If we declare war, then I'd understand censoring anything that may be construed as demoralizing towards our country.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170588 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:23 pm to
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??? What suffering? The American taxpayers?

I can't with you morons
Posted by HughsWorkPhone
Member since Sep 2017
1437 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:26 pm to
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California prefers socialist and communist policies as a whole...would you be ok with a country invading and us allowing them to be annexed as a solution to the war???


All of this is ignoring the entire reason for the Russian invasion.

-US backed coup in 2014 installing pro western government on Russian border.

-Flirting with Nato membership for Ukraine

Either of those 2 would have the US invading Mexico. There is not even an argument. So basically every US politician would support a similar invasion if Russia did to Mexico what we are doing to Ukraine over the last decade
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 10:50 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138071 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:35 pm to
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We’re just providing support so that Russia doesn’t get into the practice of invading and conquering other countries in Europe

Like who?
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6811 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:51 pm to
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I think he's wrong. What about if an ethnic minority in a region of the US decided to be independent of America?


The difference is the US government could stop any rebellion/invasion in a pocket or region of our country. Ukraine has proven they can’t even with the help of the entire west.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92398 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:18 pm to
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Elon is not wrong


He is on the last part.

"Identifying" as being part of Russia doesn't make you Russian.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41740 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:35 pm to
Where was Musk in 1861? Jefferson Davis is asking for a friend.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18495 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Assuming you believe that the will of the people matters, we should, in any given conflict region, support the will of those who live there,” Mr Musk replied


Sounds like Musk would support the US invasion/annexation of Mexico, Central America, and South America.

And the north should have allowed the south to secede and avoid the civil war.

How can someone so smart be so dumb?
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 2:57 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41740 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:09 pm to
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“Assuming you believe that the will of the people matters, we should, in any given conflict region, support the will of those who live there,” Mr Musk replied.


Tell Musk to come down and help St. George,
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41740 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:26 pm to
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Common sense dictates that you don't try to force a nuclear nation into a corner


But what do you do when it appears they are putting themselves in a corner?

Russia led by Putin miscalculated. They thought they could rush in and capture Kiev, which is over 80% Ukranian, and take Ukrsine easily. The fact they failed us in them. Western weapons hadn’t really got to Ukrsine yet and Russian battle groups were getting decimated.

Since then we saw a Russian push in the East and South that for the most part has been arrested as Russian strength had been spent. Now Ukraine is rolling in the north and in the south as Putin tries a new strategy.

Oh and btw, Kherson is 76% Ukranian. Less than half the population of Melitopol is Russian. So again, why did Russia attack these two cities? Ask Musk that question.
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 4:19 pm
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