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re: Dr. Fauci strongly warns against re-opening and believes death toll is greater than

Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by George Dickel
Member since Jun 2019
1586 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:04 pm to
Dr. Death emailed his talking points To the senate to the NYT last night. ( As reported by Rush).
So....
/smh
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16199 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:06 pm to
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tigerinDC09


Dude still touting msm narratives.

Fauci is trustworthy regarding science? Anyone who has actually listened to him instead of relying on the msm to tell them what he said...would know that fauci has been wrong about almost everything.

I'm not asking a doctor to be right 100% of the time. That would be impossible. I'm just asking the doctor to not get everything wrong when you need an expert's opinion the most, in the middle of a pandemic.

Fauci gets everything wrong and still believes that he should have the high ground to preach from. Granted, people like you would kiss his arse no matter what.. you'd even use insignificant polls to show that there are a lot of people like you out there, who blindly follow msm narratives.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12558 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:06 pm to
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Dr. Fauci strongly warns against re-opening and believes death toll is greater than reported.


Did he say why? Right now if you fall over with a heart attack in the front lawn while trimming the hedges,and you test positive for the virus, you officially die from Covid 19.

How in the hell is he saying death from the virus is under reported??
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 1:07 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:09 pm to
Because mortality generally is up considerably in places with extensive outbreaks. We've got about 26,000 more deaths a week than normal for this time of year. Those won't all be COVID, of course. Some people are neglecting other health care out of fear of COVID risk in hospitals.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19356 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:10 pm to
the medicine he's hocking must not be ready yet. Gotta have enough time to make sure its announced and available for a windfall.
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2926 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:11 pm to
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Dr. Fauci strongly warns against re-opening and believes death toll is greater than reported


Really? You mean the death toll that has been skewed to COD being Covid-19 if you tested positive for it regardless of anything else...

The more he speaks the more he loses credibility.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22796 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:12 pm to
If all that we want is for some one to constantly give the extreme solution of just shutting everything down and isolating everyone then they can do that with someone off the street. His advice at least in Public has been absolutely pointless and wouldn’t require even a doctor to give it.

Rand pushes him on a real decision making and making hard calls and he responded with needing months to years of research to deliver a solution. At this point he should be dismissed as a public figure and he can be the geek that sits in the back of the conference room that is barely called on because everyone already knows what he may have to add anyways.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123856 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:15 pm to
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re-opening could lead to “needless suffering and death”
Yet he says he is a man of data and fact.

Regarding death, data and fact do not back his assertion as long as rate of hospitalization does not exceed health system capacity. Outside of NYC, we've not come close to that marker.

Regarding suffering, the economic devastation secondary to shutdown is leagues worse than sublethal CV19 infections.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:16 pm to
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I'm really renting space in ya'll heads nowadays huh...


Yeah.

That's how to describe the fact that your pants are around your ankles and you lack any human decency or character to address your failure.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
12927 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:18 pm to
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I'm really renting space in ya'll heads nowadays huh...


Well, we know no one, especially you, has set up shop inside your head.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68529 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:26 pm to
frick this dude. We are in this mess because of people like him.

Why the frick were we funding bat virus research in China?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59753 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:33 pm to
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tigerinDC09


No thoughts on the latest developments re: Gen. Flynn? You sure did have some thought back when you were under the distinct impression that you had OMB.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22355 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:34 pm to
Shorty can go frick himself.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23014 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:36 pm to
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he’s skeptical of colleges opening in the fall


Daycare through college should have never shut down at all for this mess.

Our focus should have been nursing homes.

Total policy failure.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:49 pm to
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The Hippocratic oath is simple. First, do no harm.
Even that is simplistic and/or impossible.

EVERY action involves deciding on a set of trade-offs. There is no perfect solution.

quote:

. It’s
More like what harm can we live with.
Yep.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 2:03 pm to
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Dr. Fauci strongly warns against re-opening
=/=
quote:

aggressive re-opening
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7178 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 2:09 pm to
"The Hippocratic oath is simple. First, do no harm.

Policy questions are different. It’s
More like what harm can we live with."

You've got it, while many on this board are over-thinking this. If you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Fauci is focused on public health, which is great, but he should not be making public policy decisions, especially when trade-offs between safety and economic/liberty concerns must be made.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17871 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 2:23 pm to
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Because mortality generally is up considerably in places with extensive outbreaks. We've got about 26,000 more deaths a week than normal for this time of year. Those won't all be COVID, of course. Some people are neglecting other health care out of fear of COVID risk in hospitals.


What's funny is the deaths resulting from neglecting healthcare will be attributed to COVID in the end.

Go without a cancer screen for 3 months because your Doctor was locked down due to COVID and end up dying from something treatable 3 months ago? That's a COVID death as per CDC.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19053 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 2:31 pm to
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He said that aggressive re-opening could lead to “needless suffering and death” and that he’s skeptical of colleges opening in the fall.


Cut off all this stimulus aid and see how fast people go back to work
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