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re: Daily COVID Updated as of 11/2/20 8:00 PM

Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:55 pm to
Posted by beezy
Member since Oct 2009
36 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:55 pm to
am I wrong to think that the daily growth is a sign that the curve is flattening? also deaths...jesus, i pray thats the highest we see
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 9:57 pm
Posted by gumpinmizzou
Member since May 2017
2790 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:56 pm to
Rough day with 400 deaths. Hoping we will see that number taper in the coming days.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48935 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:57 pm to
we should know more by end of next week
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:58 pm to
You’re not wrong. Growth rate is slowing, or at least stabilizing.

25% every day is still pretty shitty because it compounds like compounding interest but it’s better than the growth rate increasing.

I want to see single digit growth rate.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36703 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:00 pm to
Louisiana “state doctor” flat out said they’re not tracking those who were at home quarantined even with a positive.
Posted by NorCali
Member since Feb 2015
1044 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:21 pm to
New York is experiencing it's hot zone and contributing to the sharp increases.
West Coast is avoiding for now thanks in part to early halting of incoming travel from China and early social distancing vs NYC which was promoting social gatherings in early March and later travel ban from Europe are having a an impact. And it is our largest city with ~9 million people with very high population density.
I hate to say it, but we should expect to see steep curves for both cases and deaths for about another week at least, hoping that NY cools off by the and no other spots turn on.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111508 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:22 pm to
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And it is our largest city with ~9 million people with very high population density.


Plus public transit.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27538 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:24 pm to
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hoping that NY cools off by the and no other spots turn on.


I'm thinking New Orleans is the next big driver.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69285 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:26 pm to
It won’t be the highest deaths we see

We are a nation of 325 million people.

Deaths will peak at more than 1,000/day
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27918 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:26 pm to
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Plus public transit.


Bingo, and a big Chinese new year street party at the wrong damn time.
Posted by NorCali
Member since Feb 2015
1044 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:33 pm to
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am I wrong to think that the daily growth is a sign that the curve is flattening? also deaths...jesus, i pray thats the highest we see


Look at the curves for total cases and total deaths. They look like they are getting steeper. When those curves start to flatten, then you know.

this is why tracking daily % can be very misleading day to day. The curves for total is where you see the trends.

I rally hate to say this, but deaths have been doubling about every 2-3 days and lag behind new cases, so as long as new cases continue to rise sharply, the expectation is the deaths will continue to rise, unless one of the medicines actually have a positive effect in the serious cases.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6833 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:06 pm to
I'm starting to get truly concerned, we aren't that far away from some ugly numbers and I don't see anything slowing down at this point.

The math on the growth rate is very straightforward and is perfectly described by the "Give me 1 cent the first day, 2 the next, 4 the third and on the 30th day you'll have to pay me $5.6M" however in the case of this outbreak, instead of doubling in size every day it's doubling every three. In the above example, it would take 90 days to get to the $5.6M

We're up to the point now where the numbers will get ugly fairly quickly if that curve doesn't start to flatten out soon. We are at most 5 days away from 1000 deaths a day. This isn't me being alarmist, it's pure mathematics. We'll be at 100K dead in 17 days if this doesn't slow down. We're going to blow by H1N1 in 10 days.

That doesn't leave us much time to flatten the curve, we better pray that Hydroxychloroqunine/zpack works.

Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:19 pm to
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it's doubling every three. In the above example, it would take 90 days to get to the $5.6M
This won’t stay the way, but if it were to continue doubling every 3 days (i.e., 26% per day), it would be 1.074 billion after 90 days.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 11:20 pm
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:27 pm to
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so as long as new cases continue to rise sharply,


But they aren't.The rate of increased cases has declined the last 5 days.In others words, while increasing the aren't increasing exponentially.

Deaths should soon follow on the same pattern.

Its what happening in Italy and China (If we can believe them)
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27918 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:32 pm to
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and China (If we can believe them)


You can't.
Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
Member since May 2006
3335 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:34 pm to
You can't just extrapolate from here to kingdom come. These numbers will flatten out quickly. Hopefully, within one month.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69285 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:35 pm to
quote:

I'm starting to get truly concerned, we aren't that far away from some ugly numbers and I don't see anything slowing down at this point.

The math on the growth rate is very straightforward and is perfectly described by the "Give me 1 cent the first day, 2 the next, 4 the third and on the 30th day you'll have to pay me $5.6M" however in the case of this outbreak, instead of doubling in size every day it's doubling every three. In the above example, it would take 90 days to get to the $5.6M

We're up to the point now where the numbers will get ugly fairly quickly if that curve doesn't start to flatten out soon. We are at most 5 days away from 1000 deaths a day. This isn't me being alarmist, it's pure mathematics. We'll be at 100K dead in 17 days if this doesn't slow down. We're going to blow by H1N1 in 10 days.

That doesn't leave us much time to flatten the curve, we better pray that Hydroxychloroqunine/zpack works.


the issue is that nyc has only been on lockdown for less than a week I think.

The numbers will continue to accelerate until April.

There is ZERO REASON to expect the curve to flatten in the next week or so.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69285 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:36 pm to
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These numbers will flatten out quickly. Hopefully, within one month.
If it tkaes until april 27th for a flattening, we are looking at half a million deaths.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68139 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:51 pm to
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Bingo, and a big Chinese new year street party at the wrong damn time.

When was that?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:54 pm to
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Its what happening in Italy
Yesterday Italy has more deaths than any other day. Their rate of growth in new cases started to decrease (i.e., growing at a lesser rate) nearly 3 weeks ago.
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