re: Conservatives lost every social issue in our life times

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In 2007, Fox & Friends called Rogers an “evil, evil man” for telling children that they were special. He defended public funding for public television, and promoted racial and gender equality.

These are issues that are commonly opposed here.

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I don't know how many posters would publicly decry Mr. Rogers' messaging. Like if their real names and faces were attached.

Must be a day that ends with "y."

ETA my point is that people will post opinions they might not actually hold, or at least wouldn't feel comfortable espousing publicly, in order to pander to the tribal group think here and accumulate some green arrows.

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Society does claim to value interactions that are respectful, kind, charitable, etc. Those don't have to be explicitly Christian actions or values. Think about Mr. Rogers. His show wasn't a Christian show but he "preached" being a good neighbor. We need a revival of being a good neighbor.

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Secular values don't have a strong enough basis to endure adversity.

Glad to hear how you're raising your children:)

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Secular values don't have a strong enough basis to endure adversity.

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They have no basis at all.

Forget adversity, they can't even logically survive the question, "Why should I love my neighbor instead of hating him/her?"

Not in any sense beyond personal preference, anyway.

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But he was a devout Christian—an ordained Presbyterian minister, in fact—and everything he did he did out of his faith.

So you still have to start with the faith to get there.

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This is akin to saying that no good person has ever existed who wasn't a Christian.

There are people in parts of the world who have never been exposed to Christianity. The chances of them all being devoid of conscience seems implausible to me.

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Not in any sense beyond personal preference, anyway.

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Exactly...it's just personal preference. Not some transcendent truth that doesn't vary with your feelings.

I know jealousy is a sin, but I envy the students in our church's Classical Christian school.

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Here’s what dumbfricks say.

The sitcom was a tacit glorification of bastard children and the whores who raise them.

You don’t want bastard children and you don’t want whore women.

You’re also simultaneously and inexplicably offended by someone pointing out that we shouldn’t want those things

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Here's what bootlicking dumbfricks say

You are correct that we should not want them, but in no way, shape, or form should we let government have any say over what we the people want. Let the market decide. Not Dan Quayle.

And for fricks sake, it was Murphy Brown.

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Secular values don't have a strong enough basis to endure adversity.

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I don't even know what "secular values" are. Seems like an oxymoron, almost.

The word "secular" seems dirty to me. Maybe it's all the Catholic indoctrination I've experienced. I'd rather phrase this is "societal values" or maybe even "social norms."

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Glad to hear how you're raising your children:)

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Thanks. I really don't know where this "cubbies is an evil atheist" thing comes from. My husband converted right after our oldest child was born in large part due to my influence. My kids attend mass weekly (although I'm not claiming they are excited about it) and also attend weekly catechism classes. My son is actually in my class this year! When I was asked to teach his age group, I told him that I might be his catechism teacher this year and he said "Yessssssss!!" That made my day. He still thinks I'm cool. I know that won't las much longer

Jesus.

You’re dumber than the last guy.

Dan Quayle didn’t advocate for government intervention in the show or in women’s right to be whores. He said Murphy Brown was “mocking the importance of fathers by bearing a child alone.” That’s a little stronger than I would have approached the message. But he’s undeniably right on the main point that children and society function best when we have intact, two-parent homes.

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Don't act like you took some special path dodging the religions you look down upon to get there.

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What is it that you think you know about my upbringing and the path my faith has followed?

Be specific; don't throw out a generality and act like you know I conform to it.

Tell me what you know about me.

Or alternatively, STFU.

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Most people are Christian because they were born into Christian families or grew up in regions where it was the predominant religion.

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This, ladies and gentlemen, is a textbook example of the Genetic Fallacy.