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re: Columnist Sean Davis Calls on Republicans to Start Creating Lists of Democrats to Prosecut
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:03 am to the808bass
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:03 am to the808bass
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They aren’t arbiters of truth in any sense other than the legal result of this case at this point.
That's exactly what they are. It's what the point of a court case is.
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Their determination means almost zero when it comes to what is actually true.
Well, it means everything in terms of what's legally found to be true. Legally they found him to be guilty of a crime. When it comes to crimes, that's all that matters.
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Which means I’m definitely not a “reality by a court decision” kind of person
I get that you want to decide yourself what reality is. Unfortunately, that's not how reality works. Reality is what it is. And the reality is that he was found to be a felon based on the laws of New York based on evidence presented to a jury.
That's reality. It's not an opinion. It's not a belief. It's not wishful thinking. And no amount of wishing can change that. He's a convicted felon.
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None of this will make sense to you because you’re retarded.
I understand your inability to accept reality. I don't agree with it because denying reality isn't smart or retarded. It's insane. But I understand that you are in that place.
You can feel free to keep insulting me if it makes you feel better. Internet tough guy behavior isn't meaningful in any way. I don't mind continuing to explain facts as you work yourself into a tizzy.
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:27 am to Penrod
Respectfully disagree. We have been far beyond "just wait until I vote" mode. 2020 shenanigans showed that.
GOP leaders and reps need to start filing lawsuits of their own
GOP leaders and reps need to start filing lawsuits of their own
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:28 am to DawginSC
quote:Specifically, what was the underlying crime?
They heard the evidence presented by the prosecution and they decided there in fact was a there there.
What evidence TRUMP committed that crime (underlying) was given?
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:41 am to BCreed1
There’s no statute of limitations on murder. Obama had US citizens droned without trial or criminal conviction. Go for the death penalty!!!
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:47 am to DawginSC
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The jury disagrees with you.
O.J. Simpson’s jury disagreed with most of us, too. In this case, it was impossible for Trump to get a fair jury in a radically Democrat city. The judge was an active collaborator with the prosecution. This is so much true that Rich Lowry, the editor of National Review and no Trump fan, lambasted the trial as “Rigged”; and David Frum, an avid Trump hater, wrote under a headline in The Atlantic that stated “Wrong Trial, Right Verdict”.
When even The Atlantic says the trial was a hoax, it was a hoax.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:53 am to DawginSC
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Trying to "get even" with democrats won't work unless you have evidence that can be used to convict them. I don't know why they haven't figured this out yet. Trump is a convicted felon not because "democrats went after him". He's a convicted felon because "democrats went after him WITH RECEIPTS".
You don’t think there’s evidence of Hunter and Joe getting pay for play in Ukraine and China? The house committee published the bank accounts. Google it.
DOJ just won’t prosecute.
NY just convicted Trump of multiple felonies based on a made up process charge with a Biden DOJ official on stage for the press conference. If you don’t think there are democrats in every red state who could go to prison on similar charges you have no awareness of the number of statutes on the books and completely lack objectivity with regard to the character of the politicians who have been in office as democrats for the last 50 years.
Republics don’t work when the state uses the legal system to go after political opponents, because basic human nature dictates once something has been used against you it’s now fair game to do so against your opponents.
Even worse, once the legal system is judged as having failed violence is almost inevitably the next domino to fall on the path to unrest and revolution.
I underestimated Biden’s resolve. I doubt the right will underestimate what the left is willing to do anymore.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:02 am to DawginSC
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That's exactly what they are. It's what the point of a court case is.
No. They’re arbiters of the court case. 12 jurors declaring 2+2=petunia doesn’t make it so. And it never will.
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decide yourself what reality is.
I don’t want to. I simply perceive reality. You perceive your butthole.
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denying reality
You can’t distinguish between a partisan political argument and truth. So, we’re back to the assertion that you’re retarded.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:08 am to BCreed1
Texas vs Joe Biden for failure to execute his oath of office. A good place to start. Trial should be held in October in the most conservative district in the state.
Seriously the SCOTUS needs to get off its arse and put an end to this constitutional crisis.
Seriously the SCOTUS needs to get off its arse and put an end to this constitutional crisis.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:12 am to BCreed1
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Columnist Sean Davis Calls on Republicans to Start Creating Lists of Democrats to Prosecut
As much as I talk shite on here, we don't need this. It is already absolutely stupid as to what happened. Doing this will send us down a rabbit hole that nobody should want.
Trump will be fine, he's not going to jail. Even though I wish we had better choices, even I know that he will win election in November.
Repubs prosecuting Dems, and Dems prosecuting Repubs for bullshite charges isn't going to fix anything
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:21 am to UFMatt
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Seriously the SCOTUS needs to get off its arse and put an end to this constitutional crisis.
Scotus is unlikely to hear arguments on this before the NY State courts rule on the appeals on technical grounds (before the Supreme court would rule on constitutional grounds). There's almost no way they'd be involved prior to the election.
The only way they get heard before that is if they rule widely on Trump's current claim of immunity from the federal charges he's facing regarding January 6th (when Trump was still president).. The court would have to rule widely because they could find in his favor based on charges for actions WHILE he's president while not ruling (or ruling against him) for charges due to actions that happened before or after his presidency (which the NY charges are).
That ruling could come down in the next couple of weeks.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:25 am to the808bass
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No. They’re arbiters of the court case. 12 jurors declaring 2+2=petunia doesn’t make it so. And it never will.
You’re wasting your time. He probably thinks that blacks got a fair trial in Mississippi in the 50’s because 12 jurors found them guilty.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:28 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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This is a really bad idea.
Nope, the Clinton’s, bush, Cheney, Obama and people like fauci all need to be prosecuted.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:29 am to LuckyTiger
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Rubio was on Sensei's show tonight saying America must fight and do everything possible to make sure another political prosecution never happens again.
I think now that the Rubicon has been crossed that “never again” isn’t going to cut it.
Hochul has been running around claiming this stuff is a one off for months to try and calm the NY business community. Methinks she doth protest too much and this arrow stays in the quiver for the next “othered” individual.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:33 am to DawginSC
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you actually need evidence for it to work.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:33 am to DawginSC
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GOP politicians are under the false belief that a BELIEF that something illegal happened is enough. It isn't. You have to find evidence that will hold up in court. And they haven't been able to do that.
Actually proof several of these people had classified documents, so that’s one case rt there that they all need to be tried for. Mike pence would be included in this as well.
This post was edited on 5/31/24 at 7:34 am
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:35 am to DawginSC
I hope you get railroaded In a Similar fashion for a trumped up charge
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:39 am to BCreed1
I agree, but they haven't even impeached Biden, zero chance they're going to start trying to jail dems for crimes.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:41 am to DawginSC
NY state courts turned a misdemeanor into a “minor” felony (their words not mine) then warped the rules of evidence just a bit. To add, they found two lawyers to add to the jury (either lawyers who are bad with nothing to do, wanted to be in the jury for the fame, or wanted to be on jury to “help interpret the legal” stuff outside the instructions of the judge, court and public eye).
Add a favorable judge and timing (this could have been done 2-3 years ago but let’s wait until the election cycle right?).
Don’t need real evidence. Just need a system that is willing to bend here and there. The goal here with Trump is not justice, it is politics and that is the most dangerous of games in a republic.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:53 am to DawginSC
Bull fricking shite.
Every time it’s a democrat politician they get the “No reasonable prosecutor” or he’s too demented to be held accountable line.
One side gets excuse after excuse for their transgressions while the other gets their lives put under a microscope. And still then, the laws have to be contorted to bring a case in front of a corrupt judge.
Every time it’s a democrat politician they get the “No reasonable prosecutor” or he’s too demented to be held accountable line.
One side gets excuse after excuse for their transgressions while the other gets their lives put under a microscope. And still then, the laws have to be contorted to bring a case in front of a corrupt judge.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:55 am to DawginSC
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The problem with this sort of thing is you actually need evidence for it to work.
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