DawginSC

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I look at those numbers and don't see the massive decline that UGA fans are claiming is happening.

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You're hearing "massive" when it isn't being said.

UGA and Bama have essentially swapped places from where they were the 5 years pre-covid to the 5 years post-covid.

UGA took a step forward. Bama took a step back.

It wasn't a quantum leap for either team in either direction. UGA was still very good from 2015-2019. Bama has still been very good the last 5 seasons. But UGA wasn't as good the 5 years pre-covid as they are now... and Bama isn't as good now as they were the 5 years pre-covid.

Let me be perfectly clear for you.

I think Deboer is a good coach. But I don't think he's elite. I think he's a Mark Richt level guy. Keep in mind, Richt is a hall of fame coach and in his second year at UGA had them at 13-1 and won the SEC, finishing 3rd in the nation. He finished in the top 10 in 6 of his first 8 years with 2 SEC titles and 4 title game appearances.

That's not bad AT ALL.

It's just you had the GOAT before Deboer while UGA had Jim Donnan.

I personally can't see Deboer turning into a coach at the same level as Saban. I can see him winning a title or two in the next decade (if you let him stay). But unless he takes a step that he hasn't shown signs of yet... he's topping out at the hall of fame but not elite level of a Mark Richt, not a "mount rushmore" level of Bear Bryant or Nick Saban.

And yeah... I do think Kirby Smart has the potential to reach that level. Especially if he wins a third title in the next couple of seasons.

I know it won't happen, but I do like the idea of the conferences just dying and everyone being forced to be independent.

I think UGA with a "permanent" slate of:

Florida
GT
Auburn
SC
Clemson

4 "regional" games against teams that would currently be in the SEC/ACC.

2 "out of region" games against teams now in the Big 12 or Big 10

and 1 regional cupcake (Georgia Southern, Georgia State, App State, Troy, directional louisiana school, etc)...

would be a lot of fun. More diversity. Same general toughness if we don't wimp out on scheduling.

Might not work out for everyone though. Would Vandy or UK get home and home offers from the Alabama's and Texas's of the world anymore if it became "free market" for scheduling?

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Back to your point. I agree but it's not going to happen without the head office being forced to do so. We should just use the existing tie-breaker rules and crown a regular season champion. Of course, that would have resulted in Alabama getting one this year and they got disemboweled by UGA.

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Or you could go back to the pre-championship game way of naming conference champions.... the "Co-championship" method.

SEC co-champs UGA/Bama/Ole Miss/A&M

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t doesn’t matter much to me if he complains or not. The new reality is that SEC teams have zero incentive to play competitive OOC games. And, that’s a shame.

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While true, even without that incentive UGA will be playing a stout OOC slate.

Here are the number of P4 OOC games UGA has scheduled each year for the near future:

2026 - 1/3
2027 - 2/3
2028 - 2/3
2029 - 2/3
2030 - 3/3 (though I imagine one will get dropped)
2031 - 2/3
2032 - 2/3
2033 - 2/3

With a 9 game conference schedule, that's 11 out of 12 games each year against major conference opposition. THere's no incentive to do so, but UGA will still have the toughest OOC of any team in the SEC (and probably in the nation).

Well either Bama or OU will advance in their game.
I think OM is good enough to beat Tulane with any coach at the helm.
And while I wouldn't be shocked if Miami beat A&M, I expect A&M to win that one.

So that would mean 4 teams in the final 8.

UGA and OM would play each other. I think UGA wins but either way a SEC team will make the final 4.

I think OSU would beat A&M.

But I'm still not a believer in Indiana. I'd take either OU or Bama over Indiana.

So that would be 2 SEC teams in the final 4.

Regardless of what happens after that, I think that would be a pretty good "conference wide" result.

UGA cancelled the Louisville series because in 2027 UGA also had GT and FSU on the schedule.

UGA is okay with 11 of their 12 games being against P4 teams. But not 12 out of 12.

In 2027 UGA had 8 conference games along with GT, FSU and Louisville which was 11. But by adding a 9th conference game one of those 3 had to go (and it wasn't going to be GT).

UGA will also likely cancel either the OSU or Clemson series due to 2030 having GT, Clemson and OSU on the schedule... for the exact same reason. I'm hoping the Clemson one is what will go away.

Nobody else is playing 12 P4 opponents. It's stupid to expect UGA to do so.

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I may be wrong, but I thought this was cancelled already.

Maybe not. I think FSU and Clemson are still scheduled, too.

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Still showing when I look.

But either the OSU series in 2030/2031 or the Clemson series in 2029/2030 will be cancelled. Currently 2030 has UGA with 4 OOC games of GT, Clemson, OSU and NC A&T.

I can't imagine UGA playing all 12 games in 2030 against P5 teams by dropping A&T.

ND just needs to join the ACC.

They can win that conference and get a spot.

They played 6 ACC teams this year anyway. To get to 9 they could drop BSU, Purdue and A&M. Add 3 more ACC opponents. They have an even EASIER schedule and still get a playoff spot (probably with a 12-1 record).

They probably get in with that scenario if they lost the ACCCG at 11-2. No loss of historical rivals (Stanford is a permanent ACC opponent, USC is a permanent OOC opponent). Play Navy OOC every year and have one game to play teams in other places.

Just to note... UGA often gets criticized as lying for saying they don't pay as much as others do for NIL.

I've tried to explain several times that UGA spreads the wealth so while they do spend a lot on NIL, it's not huge amounts toward a few players.

I think this list kind of confirms that.

That's an interesting list of programs being cut.

The only ones I'd question would be:

• Bachelor of Science in Plant Biology
• Master of Science in Communication Sciences and Disorders
• Master of Science in Rehabilitation Sciences

Unless the "plant biology" is covered by other similar degrees (botany/horticulture), that's a real field of work that has real world job applications.

Same goes for the last two. Rehabilitation sciences are what PT's and OT's often have for a degree. Communication sciences and disorders are speech therapists or audiologists. I can see cutting those programs if they're overlapping with other degrees available, but if not it is a bit of a hole in what the college is offering.