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re: CIA Director Ratcliffe Flew into Moscow

Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by DeBoar
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:08 pm to
I agree that seems unlikely as they don’t want NATO. They can do what they want with Ukraine all day everyday though and NATO can only watch.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:13 pm to
that's conservative to undercounted if you're talking both sides together.
Posted by DeBoar
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:16 pm to
Probably yeah. What have you heard? It’s crazy we can’t stomach this Iran thing when they’ve lost that many. Shows how well we are mitigating it.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:17 pm to
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I mean regardless of which side someone roots for I think we all can agree this war is out of control and the death numbers are likely very high. It’s insane that those numbers have been kept quiet for so long.


Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine a few years ago to implore Zelensky to make peace, but Zelensky was an illegitimate "leader" who was and is totally controlled by the Globalists.

There are no good guys in this war. There's a reason why Brandon's pardon for his son, laptop boy Hunter, stretched back to 2014. That wasn't necessary for the gun charge which occurred in the 2020's.

I feel sorry for the people of Ukraine. Too bad they didn't have the power to get rid of the scumbag Zelensky a long time ago.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:17 pm to
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Apparently WSJ reported that it was to try to talk Russia down from potential mobilization and action against the Baltics/NATO. That all seems unlikely anyway, they are struggling enough with just Ukraine.

Could also include discussion of the new sanctions against nations helping Iran.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:18 pm to
I'd take care of Canada. The end.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:19 pm to
Oh 100% brother, this is all because of Biden’s and that’s also why Trump got impeached because it was about to be exposed. The people of Ukraine got screwed over biggly but honestly most of them are dumb as f to think they could take on Russia.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11982 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:28 pm to
Just for dead - Russia has published 239k named dead. UA Losses project names 98k Ukrainian dead which is about 2x their official govt numbers. I think that's probably bare minimum for deaths. If you count all the Ukrainian missing as dead, it's could get >150k. Russia is probably 3x times that being at the attacker's disadvantage and there are some excess death estimates from probate records that are in that ballpark.
Posted by Stat M Repairman
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:35 pm to
I wonder how accurate that Russian dead number is.

The Russian people must drunker than your typical Arkansas fan to tolerate this number of deaths.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:38 pm to
In From summer to fall '21, the CIA director went to Moscow four times as Russia was starting to mass forces at the Ukraine border. It obviously didn't stop Russia, but it's plausible he could be there over to try to chill the escalation. Russian domestic media tries to justify the stalemate (the war's now gone on longer than Russian involvement in WWI or WWII) that they're fighting NATO. Germany and other European countries have increased arms provision since the US backed off, and like the report posted earlier, it looks like Russia is retaliating. Not that they weren't before because they've been doing sabotage ops & targeted assassinations since not long after the Donbas war started.
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 2:51 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:42 pm to
If you look at their registries of names and very clear when you look at photos, they're massively from non-Russian populations and what ethnic Russians there have been are mostly from far-flung parts of the country.. They've also kept things very light in terms of drawing from Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Ekaterinburg to cut down on cause for protests.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
4547 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:44 pm to
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The Russian people must drunker than your typical Arkansas fan to tolerate this number of deaths.


Seek help little gaytor who didn’t even go to UF
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 2:45 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
86447 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:46 pm to
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Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine a few years ago to implore Zelensky to make peace, but Zelensky was an illegitimate "leader" who was and is totally controlled by the Globalists.

There are no good guys in this war. There's a reason why Brandon's pardon for his son, laptop boy Hunter, stretched back to 2014. That wasn't necessary for the gun charge which occurred in the 2020's.

I feel sorry for the people of Ukraine. Too bad they didn't have the power to get rid of the scumbag Zelensky a long time ago.


You’re more of a catturd guy
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
18071 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:47 pm to
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The Russian people must drunker than your typical Arkansas fan to tolerate this number of deaths.




ETA: now now we shouldn't generalize
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 2:50 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24735 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:47 pm to
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No one said anything about “being good with it”. It’s just whether you can and want to retaliate.

If Russia did that to us I’d be livid and be demanding we retaliate in draconian fashion.

Like when elements of the Saudi royal family funded the terrorists who commited the 9/11 attacks we should’ve demanded the heads of everyone involved.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:50 pm to
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Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine a few years ago to implore Zelensky to make peace, but Zelensky was an illegitimate "leader" who was and is totally controlled by the Globalists.


Oh my god. This is amazing. Johnson flew to Ukraine after the collapse of Russia's northern approach, with the accusation that Johnson told Zelensky not to take any deal the Russians offered. Superb retconn here to now say Johnson was there to implore for peace.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:56 pm to
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I wonder how accurate that Russian dead number is.


Decently accurate to get a baseline. Ukrainian drone units publish videos of deaths, and before the heavy drone phase of the war, materiel was counted only from verified footage or photographs. The Russia death toll, compiled by Mediazona, which is a Russian outlet, uses obituary data primarily, which is the same method that the website UA losses uses, to provide baseline estimates. The numbers of casualties some Ukrainian units post with proof boggles the mind, with one unit posting around 3500 videos from October 2025 alone.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
51682 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:57 pm to
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Oh my god. This is amazing. Johnson flew to Ukraine after the collapse of Russia's northern approach, with the accusation that Johnson told Zelensky not to take any deal the Russians offered


You're right. I remembered it incorrectly, but it still showed that Zelensky was nothing but a pawn. He should've ignored the guy.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10711 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:58 pm to
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Might makes right, big guy


There are no chapters in history books for countries that lost wars but were morally superior. In war, might does make right. Always has. Always will. History is filled with aggressors that were rewarded for their aggression.

Egypt. Rome. The Han Dynasty. The Caliphate. The list is long.
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