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California wants to change the definition of 'self-defense'

Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14560 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:41 pm
Valley officials discuss new bill that would make it illegal to defend yourself

Assembly Bill 1333, making self-defense during crimes, like home break-ins, illegal.

“If somebody broke into somebody’s house, then that individual, the homeowner had to do everything within their power to either leave, flee and prove that the individual is trying to kill them if they used necessary self-defense and took that individual out”

“It would also not be justifiable if you used more force than necessary to defend against the danger."



killing in self defence is NOT justified if
(1) you could have retreated,
(2) you used more force than reasonably necessary,
(3) you provoked the person, and failed to exhaust every means of terminating the encounter.

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This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 4:42 pm
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42260 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:43 pm to
Why should I leave my own house instead of defending myself?
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 4:44 pm
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21150 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:43 pm to
shite state doing shite things…
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40594 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:44 pm to
Instead of "Come and Take It", it's "Let Them Take It'.
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17645 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

(2) you used more force than reasonably necessary,


This is subjective government bullshite that plays in the gray and will only hurt the real victims, those that are in their homes minding their business and have their families threatened.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37227 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

(2) you used more force than reasonably necessary,


Police: "Why did you shoot him 9 times?"


Me: That's all the bullets I had

Welcome to my Red State Castle Doctrine.
Posted by Red_and_black
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2014
728 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

Why should I leave my own house instead of defending myself?


Dude its California. You are being reasonable and logical. That doesn't apply in that shite hole
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14613 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:47 pm to
will end up before supreme court, and will be be thrown out.

Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15541 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

A Fresno defense attorney explains why Assemblyman Rick Zbur introduced AB 1333. “He is simply trying to prevent situations like the one with Kyle Rittenhouse, where someone can go out and create a violent situation and then later claim self-defense as a justification,” Defense Attorney Mark King said.


What a bullshite justification
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35182 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:50 pm to
If you still live in a blue state at this point you deserve everything that happens to you and your family.

The writing has been on the wall for a decade now.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
13016 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:51 pm to
Maybe the person who wrote this bill will have his home broken into when he’s there and change his tune.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21150 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

If you still live in a blue state at this point you deserve everything that happens to you and your family.


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125750 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:53 pm to
Minnesota passed a similar bill.

Marxists hate property owners.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:55 pm to
quote:


Why should I leave my own house instead of defending myself?


Not sure, but your wife and kids wouldnt be happy with you.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39311 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:56 pm to
When one of the planks of your twisted ideology is "you'll own nothing and be happy" the logical next step is to outlaw defense of your homestead.

Evil begets evil
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9803 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:58 pm to
Tangipa is my assemblyman. He’s young but seems like a good representative of my area.
Posted by JohnJuan
Member since Jan 2021
43 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:59 pm to
This sounds like a golden opportunity for the YouTube and TikTok pranksters to put some body armor on, and get some California politicians thrown in prison after breaking into their homes to “ask for directions to the nearest youth center.”
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9803 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

If you still live in a blue state at this point you deserve everything that happens to you and your family.




Not this shite again.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28149 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 5:01 pm to
I conceal carry literally everywhere I go except work since colleges are, stupidly, "gun free zones." My gf does as well. If anyone attacks me her or any other law abiding citizen around me I have no issues with swiftly dispatching them to the void with prejudice, putting to work skills honed over two deployments in their fake wars. Come and take it leftist bitch.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17754 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 5:02 pm to
I'm glad this is happening in Cali.

I despise that state.
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