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re: Bluest county east of CA seeks to eliminate single-family housing

Posted on 9/12/24 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by captron
Occupied Sillycon Valley
Member since Jul 2018
587 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 8:49 pm to
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I live in the DC area. Home affordability is a serious issue here



Make the swamp creatures lead by example. If we put them all in Soviet block housing just outside DC. it would solve several problems.

1. It will add to the DC housing availability,

2. It would decrease the cost of personal security provided to the swamp creatures.

3. It would make the creatures more readily available in case they are quickly needed.

ETC. ETC. ETC.
Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
2088 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:33 am to
Length of time a law has been in place doesn't take into account if the law makes sense.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
7031 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 3:10 am to
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: it will just create more section 8 drug houses and crime zones. Not buyers.


Fixed.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59297 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 5:46 am to
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If it’s his property he should be able to do whatever the frick he wants.


If the state didn't pass a property rights law in the wake of Kelo, the state can take property from one owner under eminent domain (giving them whatever they believe is fair market value) then give it to a real estate developer under the guise of it being serving a public purpose (more housing).
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 5:47 am
Posted by LaMigra
Member since Nov 2022
2774 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 5:55 am to
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If it’s his property he should be able to do whatever the frick he wants.


It’s called zoning you inbred moron!!

If you own a nice middle class home (average today is $400,000) and your neighbor sells it and they build low income housing, what do you think will happen to your house and the rest of the neighborhood value, you stupid socialist moron?!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477224 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 6:26 am to
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Who is removing the regulations in place?

Government. What does that matter?

When Trump says he's going to fight inflation by removing regulations (which is basically the same argument as this housing one), is he a Commie? Promoting more government?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477224 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 6:26 am to
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It’s called zoning you inbred moron!!


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you stupid socialist moron?


Argues for socialism.

Calls the one arguing for more property rights the socialist.

God I love this board.
Posted by LaMigra
Member since Nov 2022
2774 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 6:38 am to
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Argues for socialism. Calls the one arguing for more property rights the socialist. God I love this board.


Ah yes the head idiot chips in with the dumbest take on the board. Par for course!


Zoning has absolutely nothing do with socialism and more to do with capitalism , god damn you are one dense know it all mf’er!

As a developer, which I was but retired 4 years ago at age 50 and now live in the Caribbean on my yacht. Zoning allowed developers to maximize profit because you were able to build a development based on certain criteria's, which in turned created added value to your development and thus allowed homeowners to gain more equity in their home without raising a finger. This allowed me to charge more on phase 2, 3, 4 etc of my development because of the value I created in phase one of my development.

Stick to something you think you know, this isn’t it! As a matter of fact I have yet to read anything of value from you!!

Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13194 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 6:48 am to
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Stick to something you think you know, this isn’t it! As a matter of fact I have yet to read anything of value from you!!



I begining to think sloblo, tardzana and 4chubbies are related.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477224 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 6:50 am to
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Zoning has absolutely nothing do with socialism


How do you define socialism without government regulation of private property?

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and more to do with capitalism

True capitalism doesn't involve government regulation of private property.

The less capitalist you get, there is more government regulation of private property, which leads to an increased state of socialism.

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Zoning allowed developers to maximize profit because you were able to build a development based on certain criteria's

That's called crony capitalism, which is a socialist concept.

Just because you benefited from socialism at the expense of others doesn't make it capitalist.

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This allowed me to charge more on phase 2, 3, 4 etc of my development because of the value I created in phase one of my development.

The value *government created for you.
Posted by jimlsu1
Ellicott City, Md
Member since Oct 2008
1626 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 6:55 am to
Try bluest county in the US.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49543 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 6:56 am to
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I live in the DC area

well - that explains the combination of gross stupidity and political amorality.

bless your heart
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49543 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 6:59 am to
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Eric Holder, ---- This is just another leftist bill which goal is to bring poo family housing into the suburbs.

There should be a law that requires anyone wanting to do this should be required to re-locate their own habitation to a similar neighborhood and live there exclusively for the next ten years.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59473 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:36 am to
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The world needs ditch diggers too, and that requires low wage workers. when ski towns make housing impossible those workers will disappear


No they won’t. Name one ski town where that has happened. You’re just clutching your pearls because you don’t like rich people.
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 7:38 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:41 am to
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Zoning has absolutely nothing do with socialism and more to do with capitalism ,


Wrong

If gubment is telling you what you can or cant do with your property, thats not close to a free market.

Its how governments keep prices artificially high, crony capitalism.



This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 7:42 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477224 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:04 am to
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If gubment is telling you what you can or cant do with your property, thats not close to a free market.

Its how governments keep prices artificially high, crony capitalism.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:09 am to
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Ski towns are filled with rich assholes that expect their every need to be met, yet bristle at the idea of housing or better wages for the lower income workers that provide those services
Seems I struck a nerve


My Aunt was a nurse in Vail, she had to live in Leadville to afford to work in Vail.

Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32737 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:16 am to
Here's a piece from Greater Greater Washington (which supports this, so take it for what its worth) that delves into more detail than OP's article

quote:

County Executive Marc Elrich can’t stop a proposal to tackle Montgomery County’s sky-high home prices. Instead, he’s encouraging residents and community groups that have historically opposed new development to kill it for him. Here’s what you need to know, and what you can do about it.

This fall, the County Council will review a recommendation from the Planning Board to allow duplexes, townhomes, and small apartment buildings throughout the county. County planning staff argue that this effort, called Attainable Housing Strategies, will create more lower-priced housing options in a community where the average sales price for a stand-alone, single-family house—the only thing that’s legal to build in much of the county today—is $970,000.

The executive recently told Channel 7 that he doesn’t support Attainable Housing Strategies, but admitted that legally he can’t stop it, as the council has the final say: “If I had veto power over it, which I don’t, I’d veto it,” Elrich said. That hasn’t stopped him from trying to discredit the proposals and, in turn, ignoring his constituents’ desire for a solution to high housing costs.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20889 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:21 am to
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Eventually we will have to get rid of single-family housing unless we want to open up vast swaths of federally owned land, which I am supportive of, or force sell farm land.



Jesus Christ
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477224 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:34 am to
NIMBYs always use government regulation to protect the inflation of their property. That's why this is so common in liberal areas.

Government regulation creates market inefficiencies, in this case, it decreases supply intentionally. This will artificially raise the price of homes within the regulated area.

The people who benefited from this over-regulation and the market inefficiencies caused by it fight tooth and nail to avoid actual capitalist/free market pricing to take place.

The people who benefit most typically have the most, and they can exert disproportional influence on politics. This creates a government that serves the interest of both government and these special interests. On the federal level, we call this the Deep State. It's the same concept at the local/county/state levels.
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