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re: Before the Iran deal is announced anyone want to post their personal red lines?

Posted on 5/23/26 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55795 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 7:51 pm to
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Mate, we don't have the cards.


What's hampering the US is global sentiment that the US is the aggressor/bad guy. If Iran does anything stupid to change that perception then the US could completely wreck Iran with impunity and most of the global community would not give two shits. I have been thinking for the past 3-4 weeks that's what Trump is hoping for, that Iran would do something militarily belligerent so the US could completely unload on their asses.
This post was edited on 5/23/26 at 7:58 pm
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25380 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 7:53 pm to
Any deal with Iran will fail, period!

Iran leadership places zero value on human life, and that is where the negotiation stops!

I really believe constant military pressure on Iran is the only way to correcting the current situation...and that approach is highly unpopular.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
34043 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 7:57 pm to
Yeah I know. I’m just calling him out but now he’s acting like he’s just doing his duty as the TD historian.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22785 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 7:58 pm to
Anything other than the irgc losing power is failure and frick yourself.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477368 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 7:58 pm to
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I’m just calling him out

You're not making any sense.

You're trying to impose a red line onto me that isn't my red line. The question is why, and why you think this makes sense or is responsive to my OP.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44332 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 7:58 pm to
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red lines


China
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
34043 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:01 pm to
I never once said in this thread or any other that nukes were your red line.

The purpose of this thread is so you can get everyone’s POV in one thread so you can use it to spew your bullshite after the details of the deal come out. That’s what I was referring to when I mentioned nuclear material and UN inspections.

You fricking know that clown.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477368 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:03 pm to
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The purpose of this thread is so you can get everyone’s POV in one thread so you can use it to spew your bullshite after the details of the deal come out.

It's actually to prevent spins by others from cope and dishonest content creators.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2021 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:04 pm to
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No nuclear material refinement No nuclear weapon/weapons grade material No ballistic missiles/development No reparations of any kind No restrictions whatsoever on Strait of Hormuz No attacks on people of Iran Any violations of any point and we send the ordnance.


Solid list. I’m with you

Notice how the guy who started this thread and was SO interested in red lines doesn’t bother to acknowledge one of the few posters who gives him a list ?

This is because he really doesn’t give a rats arse he just wanted to add to his post total.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477368 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

Notice how the guy who started this thread and was SO interested in red lines doesn’t bother to acknowledge one of the few posters who gives him a list ?



This thread isn't about that
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68542 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:05 pm to
What if that requires boots on the ground? Do you support that?
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
34043 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:06 pm to
Your schtick is old clown
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2021 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:06 pm to
This thread is about the same thing as every other thread you start

It’s about you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477368 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:07 pm to
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Your schtick is old clown

You've created a straw man that's driving you bonkers.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
34043 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:07 pm to
100%

I wonder how many times he’ll bump this or screen shot a poster.

He’s such a douche bag of epic proportions.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173820 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:07 pm to
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I really believe constant military pressure on Iran is the only way to correcting the current situation...and that approach is highly unpopular.

It's unpopular because it would be very costly with no clear benefits to outweigh the costs.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
34043 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:09 pm to
You sure you don’t want to continue more bullshite about “your red line” that somehow I’m supposed to know?
Posted by HEtiger
Member since May 2008
1884 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:10 pm to
I hope Trump stands firm to his red line. If not, this likely will be mocked by the deranged dems as his defining TACO moment.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2021 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:10 pm to
Can you imagine wasting your life away to the degree that guy does?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477368 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

You sure you don’t want to continue more bullshite about “your red line” that somehow I’m supposed to know?


Can you read?

quote:

If we don't have severe restrictions on Iran trading with China and effectively a complete ban on any enriched uranium, I don't see how you can sell this as anything other than an expensive L, because with those in place you have to ask what the hell this war was about.

Reparations would make it terrible.

Basically if Iran doesn't face severe consequences we have given them power on par with nukes and a trump card (no pun intended) with the SOH. They've shown they can shut it down, tank the world economy, and we can't do shite about it, which is the same deterrence that nukes would provide.
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