re: Before the Iran deal is announced anyone want to post their personal red lines?

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No one in this thread knows all the plans and options currently available to the Trump Administration.

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LITERALLY irrelevant to the thread's OP.

The point of this thread is not knowing what the details are and coming down on sides BEFORE the deal is announced.

I'm already disillusioned with this whole situation anyway, with how we've allowed the leverage we fought so hard for, spent billions on, and lost 13 American lives over, to just fizzle out. It's gone from us standing with a very big gun to Iran's head making demands to them holding the Strait and their neighbors hostage and making demands. That's what happens when you go 2 months of making threats and back down every time.


- Give up nuclear material altogether or let us dilute it down to civilian use levels and open inspections. Either one works.

- No control system or fees over the Strait. Recognize it is an international waterway and nobody owns it or controls it

- No funding of terror proxies

Any deal that doesn't include the 3 above at bare minimum is a failure and epic embarrassment. We also should, in no way shape or form, pay them back any sort of reparations for the damage done to them. They did damage to their neighboring countries infrastructure and our bases in the region too, that's how wars work.

Any sort of funds in those quantities sent to Iran would immediately be spent on terror proxies, rearming, and back pay for the IRGC goons, NOT to repair civilian infrastructure like they'd claim. frick that.

These are not only my "personal red lines" but also the stated goals of Trump and his admin. Anything else is a failure that strengthens Iran's footing on the world stage and emboldens them even further towards nefarious actions in the future.

It sets a precedent that they can go after a nuclear weapon even harder (which they certainly will) and if anyone tries to do anything about it they can just threaten to shut down the Straits, destroy their neighbors' oil and LNG infrastructure, cut undersea internet cables, attack commerical shipping in international waters, launch hundreds of ballistic missiles at Israel and other cooperative countries, etc. and it'll work to make a superpower back off.

I'm not feeling too optimistic we'll come out of this with a clear win. But maybe it'll spur the citizens of the country to rise up, or Israel to go ham by themselves if they have to. We'll have to wait and see how it unfolds.

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No IRGC gone is an Epic fail

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I tend to agree; most of the rest of the shite isn't really relevant if the IRGC is still in charge. They'll lie, fund proxies, and continue all of the shite they've done since 1979. Nevermind torturing and killing Persians (admittedly, a secondary objective, since I'm an American.) If normal Persian civilians aren't in control of the government at the end of this, it was a nearly total waste of time. I do like slapping the dicks of regimes, but Iran will also be fricking around 30 years from now with the IRGC in charge.

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I don't see how you can sell this as anything other than an expensive L

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I reserve the right to "sell this" as anything I choose. Just like people like you will do.

Iran could offer a full surrender and invite Trump to Tehran to kiss his ring on worldwide tv. Then if gas prices don't fall fast enough for you, or if China is involved in Iran more than you'd like, or lord knows what other things can evolve from this....you'll call it a loss.

So can't name one lol

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How can you know which “side to come down on” if you don’t know the outcome?

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The point is that we don't know the outcome yet. It's the time for personal opinions prior to spin

You don't understand the variables in play or have an opinion on them?

This isn't difficult.

Uh huh

In cash.

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I am a huge pussy

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Whatever you say my man

Aw look at edit twat