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Before the Iran deal is announced anyone want to post their personal red lines?
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:17 pm
Also this would be before the online/admin/media spin can influence people.
Iran nuclear capability?
Amount of enriched nuclear material? Rate of development?
Reparations?
Conditions for the SOH?
Restrictions on trade with countries (including Russia and China)?
Just list whatever red lines that, if crossed, would make you consider the deal a failure?
*MAJOR ETA: I hope we can all agree that if the spin to defend this deal focuses on analyzing extreme minutia to claim that this deal is marginally better than the Obama deal, that this signals this was a huge failure
Iran nuclear capability?
Amount of enriched nuclear material? Rate of development?
Reparations?
Conditions for the SOH?
Restrictions on trade with countries (including Russia and China)?
Just list whatever red lines that, if crossed, would make you consider the deal a failure?
*MAJOR ETA: I hope we can all agree that if the spin to defend this deal focuses on analyzing extreme minutia to claim that this deal is marginally better than the Obama deal, that this signals this was a huge failure
This post was edited on 5/23/26 at 5:24 pm
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
You didn't?
Slowteflonpro.
Slowteflonpro.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
So now peace isn’t enough for you?
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
I saw SDVTiger, for instance, post this in another thread
quote:
No Kharg No IRGC gone is an Epic fail
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:20 pm to Rebel
quote:
So now peace isn’t enough for you?
It's relative
A bad deal and L is better than invasion or more bombing towards a win we can't reach, for instance.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
Just gtfo.
No reparations. Open the strait to how it operated in February.
Then focus on Cuba
No reparations. Open the strait to how it operated in February.
Then focus on Cuba
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
saw SDVTiger, for instance, post this in another thread quote:No Kharg No IRGC gone is an Epic fail
My respect for him went up based on that post.
Now.
Me saying that may be enough for him to change his position but we have the proof
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
personal red lines
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:22 pm to moneyg
What's funny with people having their own opinions without spin/influence?
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:23 pm to Adam Banks
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Me saying that may be enough for him to change his position but we have the proof
It seems we have a lot of scared posters who don't want to do the same.
I give him all the credit in the world.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:23 pm to The Baker
quote:
Then focus on Cuba
This disaster wasn’t enough you thought you’d like to bring it closer to home?
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Conditions for the SOH?
They should not charge a fee to use it.
quote:
Reparations?
Really tired of taxpayer money rebuilding countries.
quote:
Amount of enriched nuclear material? Rate of development?
Well, we can't go in an take it. Would love to see it desposed of and would love to see them have material for power generation only.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
What's funny?
You don't have any red lines
But others are scared?
fricking clown.
You don't have any red lines
But others are scared?
fricking clown.
This post was edited on 5/23/26 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
Any feature of Iran having any control whatsoever of Strait is a failure.
Any form of reparations is a failure.
I can see a slight budge from us on sanctions, but very, VERY little.
...and they can have very VERY limited uranium enrichment.
We're at the point right now that if they don't agree to this right now, we have to bomb.
Any form of reparations is a failure.
I can see a slight budge from us on sanctions, but very, VERY little.
...and they can have very VERY limited uranium enrichment.
We're at the point right now that if they don't agree to this right now, we have to bomb.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
As to the subject of the OP
My red lines are reparations, softening of sanctions and any movement towards enriched uranium (nuclear weapons)
My reasoning is the first costs us money and the other two is international perception. It admits defeat and that we lost
I didn’t want war but since we did we at least have to preserve the status quo which the above three would be taking steps backwards not forwards
My red lines are reparations, softening of sanctions and any movement towards enriched uranium (nuclear weapons)
My reasoning is the first costs us money and the other two is international perception. It admits defeat and that we lost
I didn’t want war but since we did we at least have to preserve the status quo which the above three would be taking steps backwards not forwards
This post was edited on 5/23/26 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:26 pm to Jbird
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You don't have any red lines
If we don't have severe restrictions on Iran trading with China and effectively a complete ban on any enriched uranium, I don't see how you can sell this as anything other than an expensive L, because with those in place you have to ask what the hell this war was about.
Reparations would make it terrible.
Basically if Iran doesn't face severe consequences we have given them power on par with nukes and a trump card (no pun intended) with the SOH. They've shown they can shut it down, tank the world economy, and we can't do shite about it, which is the same deterrence that nukes would provide.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:26 pm to tiger1014
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This disaster wasn’t enough you thought you’d like to bring it closer to home?
Well. Personally I wouldn’t intervene anywhere… but since it appears we have a rabid dog of a MIC, at least redirect its attention to something that would improve our neck of the woods.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
Sweet took long enough.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:27 pm to Adam Banks
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I didn’t want war but since we did we at least have to preserve the status quo which the above three would be taking steps backwards not forwards
That's kind of the point.
Don't forget months of tons of people demanding regime change and citing all the citizens killed by the regime earlier this year, etc.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ah yes the tap dance begins
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