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Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
BTW your information is from media sources that don't paint the entire picture. I've seen everything we've done and it's far from a loss. Only problem is that it's classified so I can't share because I value my job. The reason why it won't get released is because while we use 4th maybe 5th generation weapons so we don't want to openly disclose everything that happened. In other words, I'm fine with idiots calling it a loss.
Common sense goes a long fricking way.
Common sense goes a long fricking way.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:41 pm to DeBoar
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Can you even name the stated goals from the beginning?
1. Complete destruction of their military capabilities (Not Accomplished)
2. Removal of their nuclear energy enrichment program (Not Accomplished)
3. Regime Change (Not Accomplished)
4. Removal of their ability to use proxies in the region (Not Accomplished)
From Trump on 2/28/2026
LINK
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:42 pm to joshnorris14
Unconditional Surrender (Not accomplished)
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:43 pm to USAFTiger42
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BTW your information is from media sources that don't paint the entire picture. I've seen everything we've done and it's far from a loss. Only problem is that it's classified so I can't share because I value my job. The reason why it won't get released is because while we use 4th maybe 5th generation weapons so we don't want to openly disclose everything that happened. In other words, I'm fine with idiots calling it a loss.
Nobody is arguing our military isn't badass and we can bomb the shite out of anyone and control the air, or anything like that. But this operation, to be successful, required a lot more than that. Don't get it twisted.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:52 pm to The Baker
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would improve our neck of the woods.
Why? Having to deal with a humanitarian and refugee crisis in our own backyard?
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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We didn't get regime change
We didn't remove their nuclear capability
They have shown they can shut down the SOH and we can't do much about it
These are facts. We've already got people proclaiming a Noble Prize for Trump because he "ended" this war. The delusion is absolutely unreal.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:01 pm to Upperdecker
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Removal of nuclear from Iran and no weapons for Iran is my red line
To add, a lot of death and destruction.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:04 pm to DD_Rolltide
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These are facts. We've already got people proclaiming a Noble Prize for Trump because he "ended" this war. The delusion is absolutely unreal.
There is someone in the other thread proclaiming victory b/c our allies, who had no part in starting the war and who didn't want to lose the war, couldn't open the SOH in a conflict of which they weren't even participants.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Iran nuclear capability?
Biggest red line
Any control over the Straits of Hormuz traffic, such as fees for passage, would be a second.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:13 pm to teke184
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If tweet fails to load, click here. If this has legs I hope everyone is as mad at this as they were about Obama sending piles of cash
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:15 pm to StormyMcMan
We cannot withdraw any forces. That's also a deal killer.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'll pass on making Iran the 51st state.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:15 pm to StormyMcMan
There’s a big difference of unfreezing their own money and giving pallets of cash.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:15 pm to StormyMcMan
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If this has legs I hope everyone is as mad at this as they were about Obama sending piles of cash
So Iran is more empowered than they were before the war. Wonderful deal Trump negotiated
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:19 pm to DeBoar
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There’s a big difference of unfreezing their own money and giving pallets of cash.
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the $1.7 billion was comprised of $400 million that Iran had placed in a U.S. Foreign Military Sales trust fund and $1.3 billion in interest
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:20 pm to DeBoar
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There’s a big difference of unfreezing their own money and giving pallets of cash.
This is true.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
No nuclear material refinement
No nuclear weapon/weapons grade material
No ballistic missiles/development
No reparations of any kind
No restrictions whatsoever on Strait of Hormuz
No attacks on people of Iran
Any violations of any point and we send the ordnance.
No nuclear weapon/weapons grade material
No ballistic missiles/development
No reparations of any kind
No restrictions whatsoever on Strait of Hormuz
No attacks on people of Iran
Any violations of any point and we send the ordnance.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
No one in this thread knows all the plans and options currently available to the Trump Administration. It may be entertaining to discuss but you should acknowledge that the ultimate outcome of what occurs in the days ahead will not be known for months or years.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:23 pm to DeBoar
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There’s a big difference of unfreezing their own money and giving pallets of cash.
So you supported the Obama Admin giving Iran its own money back?
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